Altercation at Terminal 2

[lazerblue]

I don’t think I could control myself with that barrage of abuse that copper received. If they tried that in most other countries they would have come of much worse

That copper would have to be an absolute saint not to do what he did in the heat of the moment

 

[Bluesince1979]

Whatever they’ve done prior really doesn’t change anything .

Is it ok to boot a person laying faced down , neutralised and not moving in any circumstance? That is the only question.

What happened prior is In sequential.

Everyone knew the police wouldn’t do it for a laugh or randomly, they did it because there was some sort of altercation shortly prior - of which you would assume the person laying on the ground was involved with and was likely in the wrong.

For the 3rd time…. The copper wouldnt have known the thug had been tasered

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

For the 103rd time…. The copper wouldnt have known the thug had been tasered

Corrected for you

 

[BlueHammer85]

For the 3rd time…. The copper wouldnt have known the thug had been tasered

That aside, Is it ok for a copper to boot and stamp someone in the head laying faced down on the ground - some will say based on the melee before hand yes, some will say no.
It’s a matter of opinion really.

 

[i kne albert davy]

I already assumed that was the case.

I never assumed a police guy saw a bloke laying on the ground and thought he’d boot him in the head for the sake of it.

Quite a few did a firearms officer doesn’t lose it like that for fuck all, now its out in the public domain all bar a few can see the officers actions are understandable.

 

[Nellies left peg]

For the 3rd time…. The copper wouldnt have known the thug had been tasered

Im not the dibble’s biggest fan but I think this one needs the support of law abiding citizens who use airports and other public facilities to make sure they can travel safely to and from their destination without having to put up with abhorrent behaviour by whoever feels it is ok to behave like a wanker

 

[lazerblue]

In and around various cop shops when these cunts get arrested.

Can we not re open Faraday street for the arrest

 

[Nellies left peg]

That aside, Is it ok for a copper to boot and stamp someone in the head laying faced down on the ground - some will say based on the melee before hand yes, some will say no.
It’s a matter of opinion really.

This bloke has hardly a mark on him considering his attempted assassination according to his lawyer

 

[Mon Autre]

I’d say after seeing that video that a lot changed. The media hung that officer out to dry and that video provides some context into what he was actually facing. Two officers already attacked and down, him facing two absolute crazed attackers, he did what he needed to do to control a horrendous situation.

It's changed nothing. I don't think anybody was seriously expecting the other footage would paint the suspects in a good light. I think everyone assumed there'd been a violent and chaotic lead up to what we saw.

But the situation was very clearly under control when the officer kicked and stamped on him.

The CCTV definitely goes a long way to show what kind of people the suspects are and it will no doubt be used against them when they come up in court themselves, but it doesn't excuse the officer stamping on his head.

To be honest, in that CCTV clip, the situation only escalates into violence when that same officer slams the first guy's head down into the machine. He is the first aggressor (in that footage). I'm fully prepared for the fact that more footage will probably emerge which makes the suspects look even worse but that CCTV clip in isolation doesnt really do anything to exonerate the officer.

 

[Bluesince1979]

That aside, Is it ok for a copper to boot and stamp someone in the head laying faced down on the ground - some will say based on the melee before hand yes, some will say no.
It’s a matter of opinion really.

In my opinion, the police should do what needs doing. I have zero sympathy for what the thugs got because their actions deemed that whatever followed was asked for

You cannot start throwing punches at police. In a high security situation like an airport, where the police had guns

 

[BlueHammer85]

This bloke has hardly a mark on him considering his attempted assassination according to his lawyer

He went to hospital and has a cyst on his brain I read.

 

[Mon Autre]

Agree with all that. But from the footage, I don't agree he was neutralised, or that the situation was under control. Sorry.

That is my honest and completely apolitical, secular, non-racial, culture-free view, on the incident as I see it.

And that's fine. We're looking at the same footage and I think we're both giving our view of it in good faith. We can just agree to disagree on that.

 

[Mraitch]

Do people seriously thinks those that were outraged by the boot and stamp on the head didn’t realise there was a fight with the police moments before?

This footage didn’t change much for me, it was as expected- they’re scum and deserve jail.

That doesn’t justify the boot and stamp the police guy did when he was on the ground, facing down. IMO.

It is really easy to sit in your ivory tower and pass judgement. The officer had received multiple blows to the head from two people and put in a choke hold, also witnessing two female colleagues being seriously assaulted and you expect him to remain calm and level headed. He is a human being, not a machine. It is too idealistic to expect someone not to react.
He will wish he hadn’t because he may be prosecuted and lose his job and even liberty. The baying mob won’t accept anything less and the spineless authorities are frequently running scared of upsetting that community.

 

[lazerblue]

Speaking as a lefty liberal, hummus/lentil eating, sandal wearing whatever

They deserved everything they got. Police officer that did the kick and stamp should probably get some kind of punishment I suppose, but it should be a token one.

His punishment should be an hour in a darkened room with a lefty liberal hummus/lentil eating, sandal wearing type to point out the error of his ways and return him to the path of righteousness

 

[BlueHammer85]

It is really easy to sit in your ivory tower and pass judgement. The officer had received multiple blows to the head from two people and put in a choke hold, also witnessing two female colleagues being seriously assaulted and you expect him to remain calm and level headed. He is a human being, not a machine. It is too idealistic to expect someone not to react.
He will wish he hadn’t because he may be prosecuted and lose his job and even liberty. The baying mob won’t accept anything less and the spineless authorities are frequently running scared of upsetting that community.

I can respect that opinion.

 

[AliBobbyJ]

If the officer ends up losing his job (plus police pension, etc.) i imagine police forces up & down the county will have collections for him. And what about go-fund-me on his behalf, considering there's one for anyone who gets lost on holiday and other dubious causes (or does GFM not allow its site to be used in cases where there are potential criminal charges?)

Some of my family in Manc were in the police and took a beating or three over the years, yet the stamp on the head still looks to me like the officer lost it in his rage and I reckon regretted it within half an hour (or at least regretted it being filmed.) Most everyone's felt the red mist come down but does that extend to those in uniform? Whether or not he gets dismissed and charged will depend on weighing up the danger he and his colleagues were in vs. the extra force he used.

 

[Indaparkside]

H

He went to hospital and has a cyst on his brain I read.

He could have had that undiagnosed for years, if he broke my wife’s nose he’d of have a bleed on the brain the dirty horrible snidey ****

 

[BerkshireBlue]

He went to hospital and has a cyst on his brain I read.

You're likely to have been born with a cyst on the brain. I can't see the relevance of its existence with this act

 

[argyle]

That aside, Is it ok for a copper to boot and stamp someone in the head laying faced down on the ground - some will say based on the melee before hand yes, some will say no.
It’s a matter of opinion really.

Ordinarily no and I'm sure the officer involved would say the same.

However he was near knocked out and unsteady on his feet.

His mitigation will be he was concussed, not thinking straight, concerned for his and other officers safety, etc.

 

[halfcenturyup]

He went to hospital and has a cyst on his brain I read.

I am surprised to learn he has a brain.