Southport | 9 year old girl confirmed as third victim

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N1985 said:
Because cunts can't wait to point score over the left or the right. The right hope he is a Muslim so they can bang their drum and so do the left so they can bang their drum back at the right. Everything now is made political, it's turned the internet to shite and this forum with it. Call it for what it is.

Some absolute **** has murdered 2 children. Perhaps more. I'm fucking done.
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Twitter is a complete fucking cesspit tonight.

Devastated to see this happen today. Those of us who've had young kids (especially daughters) will know how excited they'll have been to go to a special taylor swift dance event, the girls organising it will have been excited for the kids, parents or guardians go to work smiling and then that happens. Heartbreaking.
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
I watch my back wherever I go. Have done for some time. I feel secure when me and mine are home. What a sad way to live.
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There's always been stuff like this. Think back to footy hooligans in the 80s, the IRA, Hungerford, Dunblane, Catholic Priests, Huntley, Fred West, Saville and co. Its just that, with social media, and 24 hour news its now everpresent in the public conscious.
 
HelloCity said:
Unfortunate that some are using this as a point scoring exercise for the own personal political views, especially without the facts being known.

The commentary here should be about those who have lost their lives and those who are hurt etc.

I have to be honest, events like this give me extreme social anxiety. I’ve got two young children and I’m on edge when we’re in public places. I also worry about them at nursery because of nutters like this. Even reading about the idiots on the roads makes me concerned about the car journeys on days out. The missus thinks I worry too much but it’s hard not to when you just want to protect your children.
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It's important to put things like this into perspective, the media is the prime reason why you're feeling anxiety and social media is what drives people to brim with hate and venom when things like this happen.

It's a very emotive topic because of the nature of the attack but thankfully it is extremely rare, the statistics do not support any reason to be really worried.

The murder rate in the UK just for example is fairly similar to the rest of Europe and is amongst the lowest in the world. It has grown recently but it hasn't grown much.
 
One question for everyone here who lives in the UK is - do you feel safe? As for about the last 10 years I certainly flipping don't and I can't see a solution that wouldn't either be called far right or far left.
 
I don’t comment often, but having not read the whole thread what I will say is the focus should be on the victims - as I live in the next road along from the incident and know several of the children and adults involved I think it’s important to keep this in mind - retribution and errors in wording will come in the next day or two - I know the outpouring of community support is completely focused on those affected with a huge amount of emotional out pouring which is still incredibly raw. Appreciate there are other avenues or aspects to pick over but surely the clear focus should be on the players incredibly young children who have lost their lives today.
 
RiversideBlue said:
There's always been stuff like this. Think back to footy hooligans in the 80s, the IRA, Hungerford, Dunblane, Catholic Priests, Huntley, Fred West, Saville and co. Its just that, with social media, and 24 hour news its now everpresent in the public conscious.
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Long in the tooth to know that, but I guess you’re right. It’s present all the time now on the news. All i know is when the doors are shut, I feel relaxed.
 
Drewmanc said:
One question for everyone here who lives in the UK is - do you feel safe? As for about the last 10 years I certainly flipping don't and I can't see a solution that wouldn't either be called far right or far left.
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I live out in the sticks here and I absolutely love it but I’ve worked SE postcodes in London for last 2 years and it was strange feeling uneasy for the first time as a grown man
It was a different world than I’d grown up in up here
 
Bluemanc100 said:
Both words may be true but could have very different connotations… let’s wait and see

This could be an innocent mistake or an attempt to mislead
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I would be pretty sure that she made a point of saying he was “originally from Cardiff” to try and quell the nonsense on social media about him just rocking up on a boat.

When they saw that just resulted in Tommy and the boys claiming that “from” meant nothing, they clarified it by changing it to “born”

I highly doubt it was a mistake or an attempt to mislead.
 
Aphex said:
Like I said. It's not a 'British' crime. Knives and kids is beyond our societal reasoning. I repeat, this is not a British crime.

That's absolute nonsense. What people want is the truth from all these attacks, and then we can move forward to preventing them.

Pussy footing around the racism outcomes and mollifying the minority is getting no-one anywhere. It's not a black and white issue (no pun intended) and there are many fences people sit on in the pursuit of their beliefs.
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Knife crime is mentioned in Macbeth. Dunblane and Hungerford were British crimes although didn't involve knives so maybe your on to something. Would Britain be safer without the British?
 
Drewmanc said:
One question for everyone here who lives in the UK is - do you feel safe? As for about the last 10 years I certainly flipping don't and I can't see a solution that wouldn't either be called far right or far left.
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It's certainly not the country I grew up in in the 60s and 70s. Politicians of all persuasions in this country have never given a fuck.
 
Stephen230 said:
I would be pretty sure that she made a point of saying he was “originally from Cardiff” to try and quell the nonsense on social media about him just rocking up on a boat.

When they saw that just resulted in Tommy and the boys claiming that “from” meant nothing, they clarified it by changing it to “born”

I highly doubt it was a mistake or an attempt to mislead.
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It’s one of them because she didn’t say it.. It’s either a quote or it’s not…

Anyway.. We’ll find out which in the coming days I expect
 
smiler1234uk said:
I don’t comment often, but having not read the whole thread what I will say is the focus should be on the victims - as I live in the next road along from the incident and know several of the children and adults involved I think it’s important to keep this in mind - retribution and errors in wording will come in the next day or two - I know the outpouring of community support is completely focused on those affected with a huge amount of emotional out pouring which is still incredibly raw. Appreciate there are other avenues or aspects to pick over but surely the clear focus should be on the players incredibly young children who have lost their lives today.
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It must be incredibly difficult right now. We are all deeply sorry for what your community has experienced today
 
N1985 said:
Because cunts can't wait to point score over the left or the right. The right hope he is a Muslim so they can bang their drum and so do the left so they can bang their drum back at the right. Everything now is made political, it's turned the internet to shite and this forum with it. Call it for what it is.

Some absolute **** has murdered 2 children. Perhaps more. I'm fucking done.
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Absolutely this. Anyone point scoring or politicising is a complete twat and usually cares the LEAST amongst all of us.

I know nothing about this having just got home but it sounds tragic, as terrible as the pyscho at that school years ago. I am glad they have caught him, he will get more justice than he bargained for.
 
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