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Gumzy97 said:
Alvarez 19 goals and 13 assist in all comps similar stats to balon dor favourite vini jr. People are seriously under rating him, that includes 5 goals in the Champions League. As a ten / striker
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How is calling someone established and accomplished under rating him. Haaland scored 90 goals in all comps over the past two seasons and Ruben Dias has won 4 Prems in as many years while also being named the Prem POY. I prefer McAtee over both of them in the 10 as well...just sayin'...
 
Gumzy97 said:
Alvarez 19 goals and 13 assist in all comps similar stats to balon dor favourite vini jr. People are seriously under rating him, that includes 5 goals in the Champions League. As a ten / striker
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G/A are part of measuring a player. More importantly, when did he get them? Against good or bad competition? In games that were blowouts?

Alvarez had his moments - notably against Newcastle at home and Burnley. But the last four months of the season he scored three PL goals - all when City was three goals ahead - and missed several big chances. All five of his CL goals were in the group stages - against Red Star, Leipzig and Copenhagen. Didn't do anything in knockouts. Like him as a player but just don't see him as an elite striker. City did good business. They can find a very good replacement for less than 80 million.
 
JewelZee said:
I've made my point multiple times already but I'll state my point for you again. Alvarez, while being an established and accomplished striker, is below average at the 10 and piss poor as an 8 or on the wing. His being shoehorned into the line up in positions other than as a 9 forced Foden out wide and had a negative ripple effect through the line up. I'd much rather the 10 is manned exclusively by Foden, KDB, Bobb, or even Grealish with McAtee, a natural in that position, serving as a backup to those players while learning from Pep than have Alvarez playing in the 10 at the expense of any of those same players and if it came down to it I think we're better off with McAtee in the 10 than Alvarez.
That's my point...
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He wasn't shoehorned in anywhere. It's not his best position but he can play it and he was in because he was the best option there at the time.

kdb was injured for the entire first half of the season, foden was playing out wide because he hadn't yet fully made his mark centrally and because he was the best option out wide too especially when a raw doku picked up an injury, grealish was completely out of form and bobb hadn't become an option.

Alvarez and foden carried us for a huge chunk of the season, describing him as below average and piss poor anywhere other than upfront is as wide of the mark as a Nunez shot. Pep doesn't give a fuck about pleasing players, he plays the best team available to him and Alvarez played more than everyone.
 
I would maybe try for that Turkish Chappy kagdoglu (sp?)& Rodri backup , though I believe that’s a very difficult role to fill. Who is available and good enough but prepared to sit big games out? Difficult choices. Trust the club to make the right deals and at the rights time/price.
 
bumbleblue said:
I would maybe try for that Turkish Chappy kagdoglu (sp?)& Rodri backup , though I believe that’s a very difficult role to fill. Who is available and good enough but prepared to sit big games out? Difficult choices. Trust the club to make the right deals and at the rights time/price.
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i doubt we will sign a DM only player, it should be a player who plays DM and CM at least who can play alongside Rodri, that's leaves Kova as a backup - Kimmich and Bruno.G are the most talked ones
if we want Kadioglu then we need to sell one more player
 
WRicko said:
I would rather have alverez and I surprised anyone can think otherwise
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I would rather have Alvarez too.

But an Alvarez that wants to leave and has found a good offer, then I'd rather have the above, and the £82m.
 
More I think about it, the more I reckon Kimmich might be the one we go for.

I’d love us to go and get Guimaraes but I just can’t see it after him accepting their captaincy, whereas Kimmich has 1 year left on contract, Bayern won’t want him to leave on a free, and also covers a couple of bases for us including the ability to cover for Rodders, and has plenty of Champs League experience.
 
JewelZee said:
How is calling someone established and accomplished under rating him. Haaland scored 90 goals in all comps over the past two seasons and Ruben Dias has won 4 Prems in as many years while also being named the Prem POY. I prefer McAtee over both of them in the 10 as well...just sayin'...
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And I still think that's nonsense.

For a start, I doubt people saying that, have watched more than 12 minutes of McAtee. People are also belittling what Alvarez has done, in either position that he shifts between, because they are simply bitter that he made a comment about wabting to play a bigger role. Put the two together and you have revisionist bullshit.

I am ok with Alvarez leaving, it is a great offer. I want to see Bobb get more minutes, and McAtee too if Pep thinks so. But let's not get fucking silly now, going overboard trying to argue a nonsense point.
 
Rammy Blue said:
More I think about it, the more I reckon Kimmich might be the one we go for.

I’d love us to go and get Guimaraes but I just can’t see it after him accepting their captaincy, whereas Kimmich has 1 year left on contract, Bayern won’t want him to leave on a free, and also covers a couple of bases for us including the ability to cover for Rodders, and has plenty of Champs League experience.
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big no for me tbh, his wages are too much and german rags would still ask around 40m for almost 30 y.o., basically another stopgap signing like kovacic
 
I defo see at least 1 coming in now doyle and sushoo both gone out on loan and Hamilton sold. I know non where first team members but all have been used in cup competitions.
 
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