Gas & Electricity

LangleyBlue1970 said:
Submitted my monthly readings yesterday.

My statement today says I’m paying £21 per month more than my usage and that I’m £121 in credit. However!!! I’m not as much in credit as they’d like so they are increasing my DD by £10 per month.

How does that work?
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With Octopus you can refund any excess money you have in your account as long as you send meter readings in first. You can also set your own monthly payment.

My current payment is £50 a month.

As the days get darker and the weather gets colder, I will up my monthly payments from October onwards.

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jrb said:
With Octopus you can refund any excess money you have in your account as long as you send meter readings in first. You can also set your own monthly payment.

My current payment is £50 a month.

As the days get darker and the weather gets colder, I will up my monthly payments from October onwards.

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Smart meters installed now JRB, moved onto the agile check these rates for today. Get paid to use electric in some of them slots.

00:00 - 00:304.62p/kWh
00:30 - 01:003.7p/kWh
01:00 - 01:302.77p/kWh
01:30 - 02:002.45p/kWh
02:00 - 02:303.46p/kWh
02:30 - 03:002.31p/kWh
03:00 - 03:302.54p/kWh
03:30 - 04:002.75p/kWh
04:00 - 04:302.89p/kWh
04:30 - 05:002.66p/kWh
05:00 - 05:302.89p/kWh
05:30 - 06:002.89p/kWh
06:00 - 06:302.89p/kWh
06:30 - 07:003.46p/kWh
07:00 - 07:303.39p/kWh
07:30 - 08:006.47p/kWh
08:00 - 08:301.87p/kWh
08:30 - 09:002.31p/kWh
09:00 - 09:302.77p/kWh
09:30 - 10:001.36p/kWh
10:00 - 10:301.97p/kWh
10:30 - 11:000.92p/kWh
11:00 - 11:300.46p/kWh
11:30 - 12:001.11p/kWh
12:00 - 12:30-0.23p/kWh
12:30 - 13:00-0.28p/kWh
13:00 - 13:300p/kWh
13:30 - 14:00-1.25p/kWh
14:00 - 14:300.16p/kWh
14:30 - 15:00-0.54p/kWh
15:00 - 15:300.25p/kWh
15:30 - 16:000.25p/kWh
16:00 - 16:3014.34p/kWh
16:30 - 17:0020.37p/kWh
17:00 - 17:3024.49p/kWh
17:30 - 18:0029.3p/kWh
18:00 - 18:3033.43p/kWh
18:30 - 19:0032.27p/kWh
19:00 - 19:3021.06p/kWh
19:30 - 20:0021.86p/kWh
20:00 - 20:3021.25p/kWh
20:30 - 21:0021.33p/kWh
21:00 - 21:3021.48p/kWh
21:30 - 22:0019.21p/kWh
22:00 - 22:3021.95p/kWh
22:30 - 23:0018.83p/kWh
23:00 - 23:3024.72p/kWh
23:30 - 00:0020.21p/kWh
 
Scottyboi said:
Smart meters installed now JRB, moved onto the agile check these rates for today. Get paid to use electric in some of them slots.

00:00 - 00:304.62p/kWh
00:30 - 01:003.7p/kWh
01:00 - 01:302.77p/kWh
01:30 - 02:002.45p/kWh
02:00 - 02:303.46p/kWh
02:30 - 03:002.31p/kWh
03:00 - 03:302.54p/kWh
03:30 - 04:002.75p/kWh
04:00 - 04:302.89p/kWh
04:30 - 05:002.66p/kWh
05:00 - 05:302.89p/kWh
05:30 - 06:002.89p/kWh
06:00 - 06:302.89p/kWh
06:30 - 07:003.46p/kWh
07:00 - 07:303.39p/kWh
07:30 - 08:006.47p/kWh
08:00 - 08:301.87p/kWh
08:30 - 09:002.31p/kWh
09:00 - 09:302.77p/kWh
09:30 - 10:001.36p/kWh
10:00 - 10:301.97p/kWh
10:30 - 11:000.92p/kWh
11:00 - 11:300.46p/kWh
11:30 - 12:001.11p/kWh
12:00 - 12:30-0.23p/kWh
12:30 - 13:00-0.28p/kWh
13:00 - 13:300p/kWh
13:30 - 14:00-1.25p/kWh
14:00 - 14:300.16p/kWh
14:30 - 15:00-0.54p/kWh
15:00 - 15:300.25p/kWh
15:30 - 16:000.25p/kWh
16:00 - 16:3014.34p/kWh
16:30 - 17:0020.37p/kWh
17:00 - 17:3024.49p/kWh
17:30 - 18:0029.3p/kWh
18:00 - 18:3033.43p/kWh
18:30 - 19:0032.27p/kWh
19:00 - 19:3021.06p/kWh
19:30 - 20:0021.86p/kWh
20:00 - 20:3021.25p/kWh
20:30 - 21:0021.33p/kWh
21:00 - 21:3021.48p/kWh
21:30 - 22:0019.21p/kWh
22:00 - 22:3021.95p/kWh
22:30 - 23:0018.83p/kWh
23:00 - 23:3024.72p/kWh
23:30 - 00:0020.21p/kWh
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We have someone at home all the time so looking ag that we can use the cheap lecky during the day, is that right? We have flexibility to put our washing etc on whenever it’s cheap so could do that during the day, or am I missing something?
 
Blue Maverick said:
We have someone at home all the time so looking ag that we can use the cheap lecky during the day, is that right? We have flexibility to put our washing etc on whenever it’s cheap so could do that during the day, or am I missing something?
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That's exactly it, plan your washing ect around the times where it's cheaper or it pays you to use it.
 
Blue Maverick said:
So how far in advance do they tell you the cost?
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You find out the next days prices at 4pm the day before. A cheap day tomorrow so will have the washer going tonight and the dryer during the early hours. Be nice if I had an EV to charge.

00:00 - 00:303.79p/kWh
00:30 - 01:000.61p/kWh
01:00 - 01:300.58p/kWh
01:30 - 02:00-0.46p/kWh
02:00 - 02:300.54p/kWh
02:30 - 03:00-0.37p/kWh
03:00 - 03:301.35p/kWh
03:30 - 04:00-0.37p/kWh
04:00 - 04:301.66p/kWh
04:30 - 05:001.66p/kWh
05:00 - 05:301.62p/kWh
05:30 - 06:003p/kWh
06:00 - 06:303.46p/kWh
06:30 - 07:0010.28p/kWh
07:00 - 07:304.5p/kWh
07:30 - 08:0012.94p/kWh
08:00 - 08:306.14p/kWh
08:30 - 09:008.09p/kWh
09:00 - 09:3010.05p/kWh
09:30 - 10:007.97p/kWh
10:00 - 10:308.09p/kWh
10:30 - 11:007.98p/kWh
11:00 - 11:306.73p/kWh
11:30 - 12:006.67p/kWh
12:00 - 12:306.89p/kWh
12:30 - 13:007.39p/kWh
13:00 - 13:3010.39p/kWh
13:30 - 14:005.54p/kWh
14:00 - 14:309.39p/kWh
14:30 - 15:0010.16p/kWh
15:00 - 15:309.11p/kWh
 
Scottyboi said:
Smart meters installed now JRB, moved onto the agile check these rates for today. Get paid to use electric in some of them slots.

00:00 - 00:304.62p/kWh
00:30 - 01:003.7p/kWh
01:00 - 01:302.77p/kWh
01:30 - 02:002.45p/kWh
02:00 - 02:303.46p/kWh
02:30 - 03:002.31p/kWh
03:00 - 03:302.54p/kWh
03:30 - 04:002.75p/kWh
04:00 - 04:302.89p/kWh
04:30 - 05:002.66p/kWh
05:00 - 05:302.89p/kWh
05:30 - 06:002.89p/kWh
06:00 - 06:302.89p/kWh
06:30 - 07:003.46p/kWh
07:00 - 07:303.39p/kWh
07:30 - 08:006.47p/kWh
08:00 - 08:301.87p/kWh
08:30 - 09:002.31p/kWh
09:00 - 09:302.77p/kWh
09:30 - 10:001.36p/kWh
10:00 - 10:301.97p/kWh
10:30 - 11:000.92p/kWh
11:00 - 11:300.46p/kWh
11:30 - 12:001.11p/kWh
12:00 - 12:30-0.23p/kWh
12:30 - 13:00-0.28p/kWh
13:00 - 13:300p/kWh
13:30 - 14:00-1.25p/kWh
14:00 - 14:300.16p/kWh
14:30 - 15:00-0.54p/kWh
15:00 - 15:300.25p/kWh
15:30 - 16:000.25p/kWh
16:00 - 16:3014.34p/kWh
16:30 - 17:0020.37p/kWh
17:00 - 17:3024.49p/kWh
17:30 - 18:0029.3p/kWh
18:00 - 18:3033.43p/kWh
18:30 - 19:0032.27p/kWh
19:00 - 19:3021.06p/kWh
19:30 - 20:0021.86p/kWh
20:00 - 20:3021.25p/kWh
20:30 - 21:0021.33p/kWh
21:00 - 21:3021.48p/kWh
21:30 - 22:0019.21p/kWh
22:00 - 22:3021.95p/kWh
22:30 - 23:0018.83p/kWh
23:00 - 23:3024.72p/kWh
23:30 - 00:0020.21p/kWh
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Thanks for that. Interesting.

I'm normally home from work between 3pm-4pm. And up till 11pm. That’s when I use all my electricity. During the day the house alarm is on, the fridge freezer is on, and the combi boiler is on sleep mode, while I’m in work, that’s it. At the weekends I'm home all the time. My current electricity tariff is roughly 21p/kWh. Without crunching the pennies I’m not sure it adds up with the possible sudden surge in wholesale prices, and the inevitable wholesale price rises in autumn and winter, which I can fix now.
 
jrb said:
Thanks for that. Interesting.

I'm normally home from work between 3pm-4pm. And up till 11pm. That’s when I use all my electricity. During the day the house alarm is on, the fridge freezer is on, and the combi boiler is on sleep mode, while I’m in work, that’s it. At the weekends I'm home all the time. My current electricity tariff is roughly 21p/kWh. Without crunching the pennies I’m not sure it adds up with the possible sudden surge in wholesale prices, and the inevitable wholesale price rises in autumn and winter, which I can fix now.
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Wholesale prices go down in winter, more wind and in the summer some nuclear powerplants go down for maintenance.
 
British Gas saying my meter is over 15 years old so they need to change it. But it's one that would go backwards if I put in solar panels or battery storage. Can I keep it?
 
Vic said:
British Gas saying my meter is over 15 years old so they need to change it. But it's one that would go backwards if I put in solar panels or battery storage. Can I keep it?
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Well strictly its their equipment, but you can't be forced to change unless they deem it unsafe or inaccurate.
 
DD just gone down to £140 per month from £180.

3 Bed semi...

BUT we both work from home and we have a Garden Room heated/cooled with an A/C unit.
 
Kompany Car said:
Well strictly its their equipment, but you can't be forced to change unless they deem it unsafe or inaccurate.
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Or at end of useful life, which they decide.

According to Moneysavingexpert

Meters need to be replaced every 10 to 20 years​

Like most things, energy meters don't last forever so suppliers need to replace older meters to ensure they continue to give accurate readings. Suppliers determine when this needs to be done by checking a meter's 'certification date'.

According to Ofgem, if your existing meter needs replacing, your energy supplier is required to replace it with a smart meter, unless there's a good reason not to. So even though smart meters are not mandatory, it may not be possible for energy suppliers to replace an old traditional meter with a new one, even if you request it.
 
Scottyboi said:
Wholesale prices go down in winter, more wind and in the summer some nuclear powerplants go down for maintenance.
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Just asking. Not saying you are wrong. Why do Gas and Electricity prices go up in Autumn and winter? Are the energy companies ripping people off as they know Gas and Electricity usage will go up in Autumn and winter months?
 
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The point I’m trying to make is, with only the 3 items on from 11pm to 3pm, and then more items on from 4pm to 11pm, how much am I going to save in a week, if we’re talking a few pence difference either way between a set 21p kWh, and the daily fluctuating agile kWh prices?
 
jrb said:
Just asking. Not saying you are wrong. Why do Gas and Electricity prices go up in Autumn and winter? Are the energy companies ripping people off as they know Gas and Electricity usage will go up in Autumn and winter months.
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Because of fixed rate tariffs lag behind what the wholesale price currently is, so it takes longer for the price to lower, where as on tracker or agile you can get the benefits of the current wholesale price and if the market has a fit you can just jump back on the fixed rate for free.

You would probably benefit more from tracker than agile, where as for me I am up till 2am most days so can do the family washing/dishwasher ect in the early hours and get paid to use it or pay pennies.
 
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Scottyboi said:
Because of fixed rate tariffs lag behind what the wholesale price currently is, so it takes longer for the price to lower, where as on tracker or agile you can get the benefits of the current wholesale price and if the market has a fit you can just jump back on the fixed rate for free.

You would probably benefit more from tracker than agile, where as for me I am up till 2am most days so can do the family washing/dishwasher ect in the early hours and get paid to use it or pay pennies.
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Like Petrol and Diesel prices. The wholesale price drop for both is never fully passed on to the driver, and when it is passed on in part, it takes an age.
 
Scottyboi said:
Because of fixed rate tariffs lag behind what the wholesale price currently is, so it takes longer for the price to lower, where as on tracker or agile you can get the benefits of the current wholesale price and if the market has a fit you can just jump back on the fixed rate for free.

You would probably benefit more from tracker than agile, where as for me I am up till 2am most days so can do the family washing/dishwasher ect in the early hours and get paid to use it or pay pennies.
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You can put washers on a timer now as well, although we used to recommend people don’t put these things on whilst you are sleeping!
 
Scottyboi said:
Because of fixed rate tariffs lag behind what the wholesale price currently is, so it takes longer for the price to lower, where as on tracker or agile you can get the benefits of the current wholesale price and if the market has a fit you can just jump back on the fixed rate for free.

You would probably benefit more from tracker than agile, where as for me I am up till 2am most days so can do the family washing/dishwasher ect in the early hours and get paid to use it or pay pennies.
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I'm considering changing the tariff we are on to agile or flexible. We have used 2324kWh in the last 12 months. Our usage is a normal pattern with little usage between 11.00pm and 8.00am. Have you any suggestions if it's worth our while changing? ta
 
hampshireblue said:
I'm considering changing the tariff we are on to agile or flexible. We have used 2324kWh in the last 12 months. Our usage is a normal pattern with little usage between 11.00pm and 8.00am. Have you any suggestions if it's worth our while changing? ta
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You with octopus energy? Download octopus compare app it shows you how much each tariff would have cost you. In 4 days of data so far I've saved £4 and that was with high use for washes etc.
 
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