Gas & Electricity

Fuck all that. Is that what smart meters give you? Graphs like that. Im getting nagged to death to have one put in. Do not want one and do not see the point
 
Uncle Wally One Ball said:
Fuck all that. Is that what smart meters give you? Graphs like that. Im getting nagged to death to have one put in. Do not want one and do not see the point
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No, they give you much more information than that.

Get one for Electric and gas!

You won’t regret it. And they are free.
 
We just changed tariff. Was just on the standard "Deemed" with EDF. We got put back to them after our previous one went bust etc. It was 24.9 kwh flat rate.

We recently bought an EV (car) so was going to swap to Octopus.
I liked their 7.5p kwh 0030-0530, but on getting a quote was quoted 9.2p kwh off peak and 31p kwh, which was way higher than i was on with EDF. You also need a compatible (ohme) smart wall charger.
Thought it still worth doing for the cheaper EV charging.
What we have found is EV charging is one or twice week, and takes around 3-4 hours. So it isn't the big gussler we thought it would be.
Then we found Octopus doesn't like our smets1 smart meter. So it was a non starter.

However, i checked what EDF offered, and found a EV tariff that suited us better. (EVolve Sep25v2)
00.00-05.00 is 12.9p kwh. Peak is 22.59 kwh (your quote may be cheaper). Not as cheap as Octopus off peak, but way cheaper peak hours.
The off peak is for ALL usage, so charging/washing machine/dishwasher all on!
No smart charger, but you do need to have an EV.

The weird thing is our summer bills are higher than winter.
Not bragging but we have a small 8kwh (airsource) heated outside pool, and indoor aircon.
They both get the benefit of the cheaper off peak, and definitely benefit more during the day than Octopus peak rate etc.

We made one simple change of delaying the dishwasher/washing machine/dryer/EV to 00.00 the saving have been huge. Well about half the kwh etc.
No checking apps, stressing and altering our lives to fit tariffs either. The above were all set in their apps once, and just get on with it. We did check peak kwh use to make sure weren't overloading the main fuses etc.
 
Only an idiot puts washing machines and especially tumble dryers on when they are in bed.
Ask the fire brigade.
 
denislawsbackheel said:
Only an idiot puts washing machines and especially tumble dryers on when they are in bed.
Ask the fire brigade.
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Why, ours is in a remote laundry room not connected to the main house.
Second we have fire detectors and smoke alarms.
Third, any product can set fire during the night. So only an idiot would go to bed leaving the electric/gas on!

(i'm assuming this is an over reaction to the fires from a certain brand a few years ago?)
 
denislawsbackheel said:
No, it’s advice from every fire service in the U.K.
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It’s true it is advised anything that can produce that amount if heat is obviously a hazard, much of it was tumble dryers were people don’t clean the lint out etc that clogs the system there is nowhere for the heat to go and boom up they go. There’s a risk with anything like that tbh but in this day and age with smoke alarms etc it’s nowhere near as bad as it used to be. I’d definitely not do it with a dryer a washing machine aren’t that bad but if you put on at midnight it will be drying inside for hours before you get it out! I’m going on agile if it can be done around 4/5 am that would be ideal and I’d set a timer.
 
jrb said:
No, they give you much more information than that.

Get one for Electric and gas!

You won’t regret it. And they are free.
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I’m currently payment £50 a month via DD.

With one month of Summer to go, and with Autumn on the horizon :-( I’ve decided to up my DD payments to £75 a month. When it’s gets to December I will up my DD payments to £100 a moth to cover the Winter months. The tracker below gives me a good idea of what I need to pay in or if I’m over paying I can take money out at a click of a button.(it get’s checked first by Octopus) My current balance is £103. The next DD payment of £75 will be at the end of the month.

£50 a month.

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£75 a month.

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PS. Spin the wheel is shit. I keep on getting 8 points. I did get 800 points once.
 
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Cornwall Insight also said it expected costs to rise again during the winter, when the January price cap is announced.

It said a "modest" rise was anticipated. However, recent tensions in the Russia-Ukraine war could see prices rise further, it added.

www.bbc.co.uk

Energy price cap expected to rise by 9% in October

A forecaster says bills will rise in the run-up to winter while experts say few cheap fixed deals exist.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Our Tracker electricity and gas tariffs track the UK daily half-hour wholesale market. We publish tomorrow’s rates between 12.00pm and 5.00pm for electricity and between 6.00pm and 10.00pm for gas each day. Make sure you select your region from the drop down at the top-right to see your local version.

Tracker Portal

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tracker.octopushome.net tracker.octopushome.net
 
I’ve just gone on to the Octopus fixed tariff which will see me through the Autumn and Winter fuel price rises. I’m only paying a few pence more on electricity. Virtually nothing extra on gas.

Come next year I might go on the Tracker tariff as Electricity and Gas prices should go down again through the Spring and Summer months.

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jrb said:
I’ve just gone on to the Octopus fixed tariff which will see me through the Autumn and Winter fuel price rises. I’m only paying a few pence more on electricity. Virtually nothing extra on gas.

Come next year I might go on the Tracker tariff as Electricity and Gas prices should go down again through the Spring and Summer months.

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Ive just fixed to the same although my annual cost is quite a bit more than yours
 
I’m still waiting for my agile to kick in, I think it takes a few weeks for it to become live. I saved 24p last week with one hour of free leccy last week did some washing, hopefully another 24p with this weeks feee hour. Wife just laughed but then I pointed out that was a 15% saving for the day, she just doesn’t know what we use. Looking at the agile I’d have said nearly 40% last week! I don’t know now though whether to fix or have a go with the agile, we are in the ideal situation as we at home all day anyway.
 
I see also they are now looking at standing charges and reducing them down obviously that will have to be put on unit prices, so the more you use the more you pay which seems a lot better, it’s nearly a £1 a day even if you use sod all.
 
jrb said:
Cornwall Insight also said it expected costs to rise again during the winter, when the January price cap is announced.

It said a "modest" rise was anticipated. However, recent tensions in the Russia-Ukraine war could see prices rise further, it added.

www.bbc.co.uk

Energy price cap expected to rise by 9% in October

A forecaster says bills will rise in the run-up to winter while experts say few cheap fixed deals exist.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Another rise for the January price cap is very likely because of how steadily wholesale prices have risen over the past three months.

It’s the profile of this increase that’s the important issue, because wholesale prices at the end of the three month observation period used for the October price cap announced today were above the three month average figure which goes into the price calculation. This end level then naturally provides the start level for the next price cap period (January). So even if wholesale prices remained unchanged for the next six months, you would still very likely get an increase in the January cap price followed by a decline in March.
 
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