PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Their competition doesn’t look very good if the best team in England over the last decade in it. They needed City in it but the competition run on their terms with one of the Glazers as ceo. They were all going to get solidarity payments which would have wiped out a decent chunk of the likes of the rags and Spurs’ debt. No wonder they were pissed off when it went belly up, 115 is the recoil from it.
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I don't really get it. If they formed a super league without City, then City as a multi billion pound business would be pretty much destroyed.
 
Blu3m00n91 said:
I don’t understand this link between us not spending money this summer = we’re guilty. Erm have you not seen this stadium expansion that is currently getting built. We spent about 200 million last summer and only one key player has left.
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If we were guilty we wouldn’t just be not spending, we’d be selling off players like KDB and Ederson whilst we can get good money for them before the vultures are circling looking for bargains after we were sanctioned
 
They fucked up the Super League. With some better management they'd have pulled it off without much uproar. They squandered their golden ticket.
 
Blu3m00n91 said:
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Can’t wait for when we’re cleared. This whopper is gonna get bombarded on twitter until I’m blocked
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Then why read it, and even worse to my eyes, post it on here? At least Paddy Power are usually funny, that's just a bitter opposition fan making money off the idiots who want it to be true. And yes, I deleted the tweet, as damned if I'm going to repeat it.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Not sure the tweets were to damage City. Having some successes in the APT case is wholesome praise the way the press has been going.

But yes, the shift of the narrative away from filing accounts that don't show a true and fair view (which absolutely is one of the allegations and is THE most serious) to Mancini (which should be time limited) and Toure (of which half should be time limited) is interesting. I read the actual article (linked for anyone who wants to read it) and the paragraph about the allegations has nine words about accounting and nearly 50 on Mancini and Toure. Almost as if the ground is being prepared for some non-disclosures to the PL and not the more serious stuff. It may mean something if you think Ziegler understands what he is writing about, but that is a stretch, imho.

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The only surprising thing I found in there was that the line "unless there are further legal delays" didn't have "by Man City" appended to it.
 
It will be nice for us to see us proven innocent.
But even that verdict won’t change the view from everyone else - they’ll still think we’re guilty, thanks to the media pushing that narrative.
No wonder City may go after journalists for libel and defamation.
 
Gingers Dad said:
I don't really get it. If they formed a super league without City, then City as a multi billion pound business would be pretty much destroyed.
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No it wouldnt because with the best will in the world there is plenty and i mean plenty of other clubs, despite what the press want to tell you the pl doesnt revolve around the red tops and spurs there is plenty of other big clubs and it would go on absolutely fine if the esl was formed.
 
mancboy said:
No it wouldnt because with the best will in the world there is plenty and i mean plenty of other clubs, despite what the press want to tell you the pl doesnt revolve around the red tops and spurs there is plenty of other big clubs and it would go on absolutely fine if the esl was formed.
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I don't see the ESL as a problem provided that any English teams in it are not permitted to play in the domestic league as well.
 
mancboy said:
ah the idiocy of the cesspit that is twitter , its a vacuum for misinformed idiots to preach to brainless idiots and the world would be a better place if it didnt exist.
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never a truer word said - it amazes me that people still believe that 'social media' is in anyway an improvement on what went before
 
petrusha said:
I have no idea what's true and am generally cynical as to anything stated in the press. On the other hand, Ziegler seems very well informed on this matter, apparently receiving information direct from one of our PL rivals, which in turn is kept in the loop by the PL hierarchy.

I'd merely conjecture that, IMO, the above may not mean that there'll be ten weeks of hearings starting in September. In fact, I'd very much doubt there would be. IMO it could mean there'll a number of days of hearings (perhaps 4 weeks' worth, at a pure guess) within the ten-week period Ziegler refers to.

I do think the mood music arounbd the case has changed a little. I was particularly struck by that recent piece in The Sun which took the form of a Q&A between Martin Lipton and Martin Blackburn. I wasn't surprised that the latter, as someone with close links to MCFC, concluded we'd likely face a fine at worst with a possibility of being done for something such as non-cooperation. However, it was striking that the former basically agreed with him.

That's the first time I recall having seen a senior mainstream football journalist writing for the national press speak in those terms. I know that Lipton is quite well connected with various PL clubs, the London ones especially, so I view that as quite a significant step.

The additional focus on the Mancini and Toure charges strikes me as a possible attempt to switch focus in a reality where the more serious charges don't stick. Non-cooperation doesn't necessarily entail financial wrongdoing, but guilty with regard to either or both of Roberto and Yaya leaves open a PR line of attack that our finances were clearly dodgy but we've covered up the most egregious cases.
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Good points well made as always. Now get back to work .......
 
Bald fraud said:
Get what you’re saying. But if you’re wages are dropping in your bank account every month would he have a clue or give a shit where the money was coming from?
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I'm sure his wages would be subject to HMRC laws the same as everyone else. Others have a better angle on this.
 
mancboy said:
No it wouldnt because with the best will in the world there is plenty and i mean plenty of other clubs, despite what the press want to tell you the pl doesnt revolve around the red tops and spurs there is plenty of other big clubs and it would go on absolutely fine if the esl was formed.
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It actually does unfortunately. Without them and Chelsea it would be finished as a top league. All eyes would be on the Super League.
 
Newman Noggs said:
I don't see the ESL as a problem provided that any English teams in it are not permitted to play in the domestic league as well.
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I, for one, would walk away from football completely if the scenario you're proposing ever came to pass. What point is there to supporting your club if what sustains every fan's passion - the ongoing potential to change your history of domestic endeavour - is swept away with the stroke of a pen? Do we really want to replace all that with a superficial so-called super league for the elite clubs of world football in which only the extremely well off could afford to travel to away games on a regular basis? If ordinary match attending fans already feel alienated by rocketing ticket prices, imagine what clubs like ours will be charging in the event we're playing the likes of Real, Barca and Bayern repeatedly! Equally, if an ESL were to proceed without City, where's the incentive for fans to watch a PL without the prospect of putting the red shirt teams and Spurs to the sword? Surely, the ultimate illustration of such folly is a season without a derby match, something the vast majority of fans would never countenance.
 
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