Brian Clough interview.

Johnny Mars Bar said:
I read the book a few years before watching the film and really enjoyed both. But I’m a fan of Peace’s writing and any film with Martin Sheen playing the central character is difficult to fuck up, he’s that brilliant an actor.
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"Never get out of the boat. Absolutely goddamn right. Unless you were going all the way"
 
stan bowles said:
He signed Colin Barrett (from us) and Frank Clark - two unlikely left backs for a European Cup and First Division Championship winning team.
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I met Colin’s brother in law a couple of years ago in hospital, we were both outpatients. Told me a great story about how Clough arranged to meet Colin in a pub in leek just before he signed him, then let Colin walk home after his ‘interview’
 
dennishasdoneit said:
I also think signing Gary Birtles for a pittance from Long Eaton Utd, a half decent local team , was a master stoke, and they pitched this Unkown raw striker into the European cup 1st round match against Liverpool, the then European champions .

Birtles ran Liverpool ragged in the late 70s tie , giving the experienced England international Phil Thompson in partc the run around, helped by the equally ,fast , direct, Tony Woodcock.
Forest 2 Liverpool 0.
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Too right. As an aside and not even a claim to fame, I used to be in same Walking Football team as the guy who inherited Birtles' number 9 shirt at Long Eaton Town!
 
theres only one carlito said:
I met Colin’s brother in law a couple of years ago in hospital, we were both outpatients. Told me a great story about how Clough arranged to meet Colin in a pub in leek just before he signed him, then let Colin walk home after his ‘interview’
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The story of Clough signing Stuart Pearce is something similar, and I think it goes something like this:

Clough's assistant (not Taylor) waited for Pearce near his car, after a Coventry - for whom Pearce was playing at the time - and asked him if he’d be interested in signing for Forest.

Once Pearce said, "Yes," a meeting was arranged between him and Cloughie, again in his car.
 
TinFoilHat said:
Clough would have loved to have riled "wokies."

Clough was a known homophobe. Look at the way he treat Justin Fashanu.

He'd have no time for the current labour party and I could see him aligning with "The working class party"

He'd have given Farage a big sloppy kiss.

If he was alive I'd have loved to have been proven wrong and he would have backed Corbyn who'd have won the GE with his support.
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We will never know, of course, and it was a different age, but I'd guess Cloughie was too intelligent to have fallen for the working class bollocks from what is, at best, a hard right Reform Party. He'd have seen through that, and he wasn't a racist.

He regretted that homophobia. Mrs Clough put him right on a few things and that was one of them.
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
I'll tell you a story about Revie. When I was at college I had a pretty good friend who was a lifelong Arsenal fan. Never missed a home game. It so happens that his stepfather had played for the great Arsenal team of the 1930s. So this guy did have access through his stepfather (who was still alive, I believe) to info that the normal fan does not. Now it so happens that Revie was one of the candidates for the manager's post at Arsenal that, I think, Bertie Mee finally got in ‘66.
Revie came in, sat down in front of the board, and was duly interviewed. They discussed terms. All fine and dandy. Then Revie right at the end said "And now, what about other payments?” It was clear that he meant, by this, under-the-counter stuff. They said, “Mr Revie, there's the door.”
Good player for City. As a manager — somewhat different.
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I read an biography about Revie one of the best books i read gave an insight into the man ............lets be right with his chasing of money the world was a different place back then and i would be amazed if the majority of managers didnt take backhanders back then.
 
Vienna_70 said:
He did act right.

It was the dirty Leeds lot that couldn’t handle the truth.
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Clough's hatred for their methods which included kicking his Derby team off the pitch, particularly in the days before a European Cup tie and their arrogance was well justified. He walked away laughing if a tad wounded from Leeds, with a payoff and it didn't work out badly for him after that did it (that last, very sad season aside). He acted right in my view because he was true to himself and told the very players he despised what he thought of them. Truly admirable if the wrong thing in terms of keeping them onside in the short term. Long term he could have built a super dominant team in his own image with the money available at Leeds. That said, a League and two successive European Cups at Forest is rather dominant albeit for 3 years!
 
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Zabbasbeard said:
Clough's hatred for their methods which included kicking his Derby team off the pitch, particularly in the days before a European Cup tie and their arrogance was well justified. He walked away laughing if a tad wounded from Leeds, with a payoff and it didn't work out badly for him after that did it (that last, very sad season aside). He acted right in my view because he was true to himself and told the very players he despised what he thought of them. Truly admirable if the wrong thing in terms of keeping them onside in the short term. Long term he could have built a super dominant team in his own image with the money available at Leeds. That said, a League and two successive European Cups at Forest is rather dominant albeit for 3 years!
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There’s the game, when Dave MacKay was coming back from a broken leg or arm (I can’t remember which;, and the dirty Leeds players were targeting him.

The picture of MacKay holding Bremner by the scruff, and Bremner looking shit-scared, combined with their attempts to injure him again, showed just what a bunch of cowardly shithouses they were.
 
Vienna_70 said:
There’s the game, when Dave MacKay was coming back from a broken leg or arm (I can’t remember which;, and the dirty Leeds players were targeting him.

The picture of MacKay holding Bremner by the scruff, and Bremner looking shit-scared, combined with their attempts to injure him again, showed just what a bunch of cowardly shithouses they were.
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It's a classic picture. I love it. Nasty little shit. For all Mackay's hardness he was respected from what I can recall (I was very young).

When I was little lad of about 4 or 5 I cam remember my late Dad ranting about Billy Bremner. He hated him and he didn'teven support anybody in England back then (East Bengal in India being his team).

I felt how much Leeds were still hated (despite Bremner, Giles and co being long gone) in my 2nd game watching City in December 1980, with "We all hate Leeds and Leeds and Leeds..." bring belted put with gusto and the ecstatic celebrations of Kevin Reeves' last minute winner had extra feeling.
 
Zabbasbeard said:
It's a classic picture. I love it. Nasty little shit. For all Mackay's hardness he was respected from what I can recall (I was very young).

When I was little lad of about 4 or 5 I cam remember my late Dad ranting about Billy Bremner. He hated him and he didn'teven support anybody in England back then (East Bengal in India being his team).

I felt how much Leeds were still hated (despite Bremner, Giles and co being long gone) in my 2nd game watching City in December 1980, with "We all hate Leeds and Leeds and Leeds..." bring belted put with gusto and the ecstatic celebrations of Kevin Reeves' last minute winner had extra feeling.
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I’ve just found it:IMG_0041.jpeg
 
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