Media discussion - 2024/25

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As per the athletic interview Bloom said about APT:

Bloom: I don’t want to talk too much about that because it has gone to arbitration and we are going to get a ruling on that soon. We (Brighton) are outsiders. Each club, legally, are able to do that. I don’t think it’s great for the reputation of the Premier League, but these things happen. We have to see how the legal process develops. I don’t think it will be helpful for the Premier League to lose the case, but we are going to find out the outcome soon.

He doesn’t sound confident. If he was a betting man………..
 
To a degree it has already hampered us if all the claims of not spending money are true (players, overtime on the building project and there could be loads of others)

I can’t believe for a minute that an organisation as big as City will not have planned for Outcome B (cost models/worst case analysis on outcomes of the financial impact of losing on all 115 charges) and from experience in working in large organisations these things happen and happen quickly via a dictat from head office. There will be player contract extensions that might have been cancelled and all sorts of shit. They do it by implementing shitty rules like “all expenditure over £10,000 has to be signed off by Kalhdoon” and then everything stops

Regardless of the outcome of the case it has already had a likely negative effect on the running of the club
 
To a degree it has already hampered us if all the claims of not spending money are true (players, overtime on the building project and there could be loads of others)

I can’t believe for a minute that an organisation as big as City will not have planned for Outcome B (cost models/worst case analysis on outcomes of the financial impact of losing on all 115 charges) and from experience in working in large organisations these things happen and happen quickly via a dictat from head office. There will be player contract extensions that might have been cancelled and all sorts of shit. They do it by implementing shitty rules like “all expenditure over £10,000 has to be signed off by Kalhdoon” and then everything stops

Regardless of the outcome of the case it has already had a likely negative effect on the running of the club
Yeah a slew of new sponsors, a stadium expansion, the biggest indoor arena in the uk, a treble, a fourth league title in a row, pre season tours around the world, its horrific the way its affecting how the club is run *rolls eyes
 
Last couple of days in work the headlines coming up on the internet all about how amazing tront was. They must have been watching a different game, he has the unerring ability to hit long balls into touch, or straight to the opposition, pirlo he isn't!

On a related note football 365 is clearly staffed exclusively by a whole crew of uncle Albert's "during the '90s... " will ford seems especially bitter has rating for Stones - managed to get himself out of trouble!!

Literally the principles of doublespeak at work.
 
Last couple of days in work the headlines coming up on the internet all about how amazing tront was. They must have been watching a different game, he has the unerring ability to hit long balls into touch, or straight to the opposition, pirlo he isn't!

On a related note football 365 is clearly staffed exclusively by a whole crew of uncle Albert's "during the '90s... " will ford seems especially bitter has rating for Stones - managed to get himself out of trouble!!

Literally the principles of doublespeak at work.
tront much like rashford and alot of the other english red tops are the product of an amazing pr machine, tront will hit a good pass of about one in every 50 but has the same range as kdb, david beckham scored one free kick in every 100 or so but was a freekick genius, rashford has scored 30 goals a season once in his entire career yet needs to get back to being a 30 goal a season striker, they are part of the reason why england struggle to succeed as the pr machine gets behind them and makes them into something they are not and never will be and then the fa makes sure they are in the team regardless of what actually watching the game tells you, mainoo is the current recipient of the press push despite not having the actual talent to warrant it, if lewis played for the dippers or rags he would be anchoring that england midfield since he was 17.
 
Last couple of days in work the headlines coming up on the internet all about how amazing tront was. They must have been watching a different game, he has the unerring ability to hit long balls into touch, or straight to the opposition, pirlo he isn't!

On a related note football 365 is clearly staffed exclusively by a whole crew of uncle Albert's "during the '90s... " will ford seems especially bitter has rating for Stones - managed to get himself out of trouble!!

Literally the principles of doublespeak at work.
Not forgetting he is a right back who can’t actually tackle
 
He didn't, as far as I can tell.
He gave it to the Athletic and the MEN has just stirred things.

It appears that Bloom said it would be bad for the reputation of the PL if the PL lost (which seems reasonable), and then he said it wouldn't be helpful - I read it to mean that it was unhelpful because of the effect on reputation.
Since it seemed to have some posters frothing at the mouth I had a look on the MEN (hint: use the duckduckgo extension on Chrome, it actually makes it readable).

Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised but he said almost sod all. As you say, you can read it in different ways but I'd go with yours. It's not helpful to anybody that we had to take it this far. The PL needs to pull their tongue out, give it a good scrubbing in dettol and grow a pair.
 
Since it seemed to have some posters frothing at the mouth I had a look on the MEN (hint: use the duckduckgo extension on Chrome, it actually makes it readable).

Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised but he said almost sod all. As you say, you can read it in different ways but I'd go with yours. It's not helpful to anybody that we had to take it this far. The PL needs to pull their tongue out, give it a good scrubbing in dettol and grow a pair.

Thanks, I think there was some deliberate paragraph breaking and separation of connected statements to cause a response.

It's common in the trashier media, yet it still works.
 
Thanks, I think there was some deliberate paragraph breaking and separation of connected statements to cause a response.

It's common in the trashier media, yet it still works.
Yep, that's the MEN all over. Whilst there (I don't usually waste time on it) I had a quick look at some of the other "articles" and they were all the same. A headline to cause clicks and then the odd quote from someone padded out with waffle.

You'll get more in depth knowledge on Twitter, and I'm not even joking there. It must be the never ending adverts that keeps them going.

Don't forget everybody, use the duckduckgo extension on Chrome when going to the MEN (or pretty much any of the Reach Group papers).
 
Yep, that's the MEN all over. Whilst there (I don't usually waste time on it) I had a quick look at some of the other "articles" and they were all the same. A headline to cause clicks and then the odd quote from someone padded out with waffle.

You'll get more in depth knowledge on Twitter, and I'm not even joking there. It must be the never ending adverts that keeps them going.

Don't forget everybody, use the duckduckgo extension on Chrome when going to the MEN (or pretty much any of the Reach Group papers).

Is the extension something which makes it always open as DuckDuckGo?

I had a look, and it seemed to change the default.
 
Is the extension something which makes it always open as DuckDuckGo?

I had a look, and it seemed to change the default.
It changes the default search engine to duckduckgo's (perhaps you can change that?) but it does a good job of blocking adverts, pop up videos, those annoying Sky banner adverts etc. It is only beta so sometimes it acts like you've whitelisted a site and other times the opposite. I have Bluemoon and my Gmail whitelisted for instance but sometimes it'll block adverts on them. Hitting F5 on my desktop put's it right again. There is a separate standalone browser as well.
 
According to the MEN, Brighton’s chairman Tony Bloom is of the opinion it would be unhelpful if City win their case against the PL. FFS unhelpful to who? Don’t these people see that the current rules were made by the cartel inspired PL to be unhelpful to some and helpful to others. Look how that is turning out for them. It’s insane that clubs like Brighton seem to enjoy their mediocrity instead of backing a club that could actually go some way to levelling the playing field. Bizarre….
It's just self interest, like every other club in the league. He is earning a very tidy profit running his club as he is, which is very well to be honest. He has no intention of investing significantly more money in his club, and so having rules that allow other owners to invest and potentially take their clubs above Brighton is a risk to his business. Therefore at the moment the PSR rules suit him perfectly.
The Brighton fans may have very different objectives of course, as the current business model is unlikely to achieve a league position much above mid-table.
 
It's just self interest, like every other club in the league. He is earning a very tidy profit running his club as he is, which is very well to be honest. He has no intention of investing significantly more money in his club, and so having rules that allow other owners to invest and potentially take their clubs above Brighton is a risk to his business. Therefore at the moment the PSR rules suit him perfectly.
The Brighton fans may have very different objectives of course, as the current business model is unlikely to achieve a league position much above mid-table.

They'll be in trouble if they go down this much debt for a club like Brighton is mad!

As of April 2024, Brighton & Hove Albion's gross debt was £373 million, which was the fourth largest in the Premier League. This was mainly due to investment in the training ground and stadium
 
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/blue-manchester-decade-city-dominance-anjal-agrawal-xl7cf

Found this article on linked-in, while looking for a source on the exact figure Sheikh Mansour/ADUG paid in total. I know some on here have inside knowledge but it's always helpful to have published sources(especially to shut down know it all red cartel fans).

Anyway, I've never heard of the author before and it wasn't what I was looking for but I did immediately notice it was far better researched than 99% of the UK press' articles on the Manchester City ownership model since 2008. If they had any respect for their profession or their industry, they should be pretty embarrassed how shit articles like this make 99% of them look at their own jobs. That's what you get for selling out to American investors and power hungry cartel clubs.

Some things are missing and skimmed over, like the full ADUG takeover date and the Newton Investment and Development LLC shares transfer. The CMC and SilverLake share acquisitions should have been included in the timeline with more detail IMO too. But what is there more accurate than you'll see in the MSM and there's stuff there I hadn't seen before too. Such as what Shinawatra's costs were and where, also some figures and facts on M&A's(mergers & acquisitions) and foreign investment in general and where the Premier League sits globally on those terms.

They've also done an AC Milan Rescue and Revival article on their investors from 2017 to 2022, where RedBird Capital took over for a reported $1.2bn. The same investors who own 85% of Toulouse FC in Ligue 1. Who bought a 11% stake in Liverpool FC and also a minority stake in Malaga CF. With rumours suggesting they are positioning themselves to become majority shareholders there too should the opportunity arise. I could have just missed it but I don't remember RedBird Capital being mentioned/targeted last year, when the press were making such a fuss about how unfair the multi-club ownership model is. Whatever the subject(net spend a prime example), it's always the worst thing ever, until one of their beloved red shirts is linked with it.

As for what I was looking for:
September 2008 was where Shinawatra's 90% of shares were bought by ADUG for around £210m. The remaining 10%, owned by Worldwide Investments Limited, weren't purchased until September 2009. All I can find for the full amount is what we heard when CMC bought into CFG in 2015(for £265m):

The figure being paid by the Chinese for 13 per cent of the City Football Group is the roughly the same as it cost Sheikh Mansour to buy the whole club in 2008.[2009]
I did try adding 10% onto £210m but it was a year later and as I'm no finance expert, I'm not entirely sure if you can calculate it as simply as that to begin with.
 
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Just to reiterate how sky sports treat us.

The Rodri to Madrid rumour from Marca stayed on their app for 4 days.

The Erling rumour of him extending his contract stayed up there for just over a day.

Fuckin shithouses. Call themselves impartial. Absolute nonsense.
 
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