PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[roy.or.r]

I really hope we win. I dread to think what punishment we will get if we lose. All these years of hard work will be down the drain.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I really hope we win. I dread to think what punishment we will get if we lose. All these years of hard work will be down the drain.

That’s the spirit.

 

[cleavers]

That’s the spirit.

Some could do with having some spirits ;-)

 

[DelToro]

I really hope we win. I dread to think what punishment we will get if we lose. All these years of hard work will be down the drain.

It’s being positive that keeps you going isn’t it?

 

[chaddblue]

We could only be charged with non-cooperation once the investigation started. Even the PL, as stupid as they are, aren't THAT stupid.

So the ones beyond 2018 are just non cooperation charges?

 

[WRicko]

If the Premier League thought we had done what’s alleged why do the charges finish years ago ? I know we don’t need the money now the Mancini stuff is over the image rights stuff over with but what about Etihad and any others or arguments about what’s related or not related party etc ?

 

[Woody135]

I really hope we win. I dread to think what punishment we will get if we lose. All these years of hard work will be down the drain.

Dont get this way of thinking.
Its not win/lose. Its not a judgement call or an opinion that will be given. Its absolute truth, in either scenario. And frankly thats enough for me.

If the decision goes for city, it will be absolute justice finally, exoneration, clubs name clean, open season to go after anyone we want.

If the decision is against city, frankly the club has lied and covered it up for years, including to us fans. Its then down to each individual to decide whether they care about that or not.

I trust the club not to be guilty of what would be potentially the largest corporate fraud in sports history. So im relaxed about it and expect a positive outcome.

If not, will deal with it then.

Ultimately its truth that we get and it will be a relief either way and we can all move on with our lives.

 

[paulchapo]

It’s being positive that keeps you going isn’t it?

I found a video of him.

 

[Sofiablu]

I wouldn't describe Leicester getting cleared as being via a loophole. The appeal panel were quite critical of the way the regulations were worded and made it clear that as they had handed their premier league licence back following relegation the premier league had no juristiction to charge Leicester

One man’s loophole is another man’s contractual obligation.

 

[chaddblue]

If the decision is against city, frankly the club has lied and covered it up for years, including to us fans. Its then down to each individual to decide whether they care about that or not.

Not necessarily

What if the decision is against city due to a stitch up or a miscarriage of justice

If this happens and out owners still insist they’re completely innocent, who are you going to believe?

 

[GaudinoMotors]

I really hope we win. I dread to think what punishment we will get if we lose. All these years of hard work will be down the drain.

You would really think that?
Whatever the outcome, we are morally in the right and that's all that should matter.

 

[Blue Maverick]

As it’s multiples of one charge surely once one us proven wrong it’s a knock in effect , so the non cooperation for example once it’s decided we have then all those disappear straight away.

 

[bluemanchester]

One man’s loophole is another man’s contractual obligation.

Didn't one of our legal minded posters say a long time ago there is no such thing as a loophole its either in the rules or laws or it's not. As for in good faith or not what they meant when writing the rules/laws, didn't Leicester blow that away. They cant write something and then say they meant something else. They try because they are a bunch of chancers trying to protect what they view as their monopoly.

 

[HolisticJim]

they'd do a deal though

Were talking about if there is something to be found.

And if there is something to be found the FA won't do any deal and the Chairman will still say 'irrefutable evidence'
That's the whole point of the original comment.

Personally I can't see them finding nothing.
You don't spend literally years building a case, drag it into the court only for there to be nothing in it.
They must be pretty damned sure they have spent the time carefully building a case which has some stickiness to it - unfortunately.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

So the ones beyond 2018 are just non cooperation charges?

Yes.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

You are right to be optimistic, I think, but I don't think it's quite as easy as you suggest because of the inclusion of a breach of the "acting in good faith" rule in the first tranche of breaches.

this is a stupid rule as it's open to interpretation. Also Liverpool would have been investigated for breaking this rule when they hacked into our computer software. That time they said due to the time involved they weren't proceeding. So it's fine one team but not the other

 

[KS55]

Has anybody asked Keith wyness his opinion on how the case is going yet I'm sure he's got some great insight in to it the bell end

He said recently that the case is about our spending. Er, no, it’s about our funding.

 

[KS55]

I think Der Spiegel spliced two together to sensationalise their story, but think UEFA presented the actual emails in their evidence. Don't think City disputed the veracity of the emails anyway.

Correct. We disputed their cogency and CAS agreed with us.

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

Were talking about if there is something to be found.

And if there is something to be found the FA won't do any deal and the Chairman will still say 'irrefutable evidence'
That's the whole point of the original comment.

Personally I can't see them finding nothing.
You don't spend literally years building a case, drag it into the court only for there to be nothing in it.
They must be pretty damned sure they have spent the time carefully building a case which has some stickiness to it - unfortunately.

A widely held view back in 2020.

 

[KS55]

maybe, just maybe...he has a Magic hat?

Harris is a sly boy,
He wears a magic hat,
His brain is just a cheap toy,
The rest of him’s a twat.