North Stand expansion - seating, ticketing etc

[pottsy]

Don’t break kayfabe by using real names. You didn’t see Ultimate Warrior calling Hulk Hogan ‘Terry’ before their match at Wrestlemania VI.

Lol - Breaking : Man who sits on the sidelines and talks about atmosphere for 15 years without bothering to get involved gives amazing insight on what should happen next with the atmosphere.

 

[pride in battle]

The survey was posted to our members, social media accounts (70k audience) and on here.

We received thousands of responses. We even forwarded a document containing every respondent's comments to the club.

We encouraged the club and OSC to do their own surveys.

I can't post the document we produced here as it's a pdf. If anyone knows a way around this I'd be happy to share. We sent an email with the results to our members.

Thats all fine mate but you and 1894 are not on board, you have to keep you're options open

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Seriously, what do you think the chances of that are?

I don't know. DEfinitely not impossible.

 

[wearethesouthstand]

Thats all fine mate but you and 1894 are not on board, you have to keep you're options open

what 1894 said in the statement was "today's update form the club lacks detail." It does not say we are never never never going in. the section is even smaller in capacity than that in south lower currently. ball is in club's court and if they were serious about extending it beyond 3,000 they would absolutely outline the criteria for it to work well before any other seats go on sale.

this will be day after day week after week and month after month of echo chamber comments on here until the club actually outlines detail, from there everyone can make a final decision

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

I don't know. DEfinitely not impossible.

My next one is that as seemingly a lot of people in SS1 are happy to stand but don't sing then how to actually get singers in the NS?

Do you think a club version of The Voice could work where applicants have to belt out Follow You and Soriano spins round in his chair if they are considered good enough?

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I like your thinking mate but that's more unrealistic than anything you've been critical of 1894 for ;)

It's not. Because it's a one off. I think it would be the easiest way to get the couple of thousand people who we need to relocate to relocate. Doesn't have to be half price, that's a sucggesstion, but it needs to be a single one-off aggressive pricing scheme to incentivise relocaters to come. Ones it's up and running that's it. It's the first seaon that matters.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Hmm yes City with their track record are bound to do that aren’t they.

And you call others a fucking idiot

You are literally attacking the one group trying to stand up for fans on prices

I didn't call anyone a "fucking idiot". Don't twist my words.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

My next one is that as seemingly a lot of people in SS1 are happy to stand but don't sing then how to actually get singers in the NS?

Do you think a club version of The Voice could work where applicants have to belt out Follow You and Soriano spins round in his chair if they are considered good enough?

it's easy. You price it aggressively. You don't need a male voice choir in there, you just need a core of vocal fans. The rest takes care of itself. The easy way to do it would be to give first refusal, ideally at a cheap rate, for people in the existing vocal areas. A big marketing campaign/push would be needed too. It has to be incentivised financially because people don't like change.

 

[M18CTID]

I didn't call anyone a "fucking idiot". Don't twist my words.

Some smart **** always keeps the receipts though! From page 29 ;)

"More rail seating would be nice but I don't see it as a massive problem. It's a step in the right diretion, particularly being at the back? How many members do 1894 have in the stadium at any one time? GA + I don't think matters massively.

1894 are the only atompshere group the club has and if they don't take this opportunity to lead and influence this move they are fucking idiots."

 

[M18CTID]

It's not. Because it's a one off. I think it would be the easiest way to get the couple of thousand people who we need to relocate to relocate. Doesn't have to be half price, that's a sucggesstion, but it needs to be a single one-off aggressive pricing scheme to incentivise relocaters to come. Ones it's up and running that's it. It's the first seaon that matters.

Yeah, agree it has to be priced attractively enough for fans to to relocate. I just couldn't see how the club would agree to half-price STs or anything approaching that.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Some smart **** always keeps the receipts though! From page 29 ;)

"More rail seating would be nice but I don't see it as a massive problem. It's a step in the right diretion, particularly being at the back? How many members do 1894 have in the stadium at any one time? GA + I don't think matters massively.

1894 are the only atompshere group the club has and if they don't take this opportunity to lead and influence this move they are fucking idiots."

Not smart enough to understand the word "If", though.

 

[M18CTID]

Not smart enough to understand the word "If", though.

The trouble is that 1894 HAVE been taking the opportunity to lead and influence this move. It's not their fault if the club seemingly decides to ignore a lot of the results and suggestions that came up in the survey.

Anyway, we're not at the stage yet that 1894 have backed out as there's still a lot of detail to come out from the club.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Yeah, agree it has to be priced attractively enough for fans to to relocate. I just couldn't see how the club would agree to half-price STs or anything approaching that.

Who knows. I think it's a sensible and workable suggestion. It's not a hill I'm going to die on, it's just a point I'm making about incentivising relocations from the signing areas. Limit it to 1000,make it points based, give them the first choice window, whatever. Make a big buzz about this, maybe manufature somce scarcity and that in turn creates a buzz from elsewhere.

Every relocator is a full price ticket to sell on, too. 1 thousand or so cheap tickets for a season is nothing if it the difference between this working or failing.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

The trouble is that 1894 HAVE been taking the opportunity to lead and influence this move. It's not their fault if the club seemingly decides to ignore a lot of the results and suggestions that came up in the survey.

Anyway, we're not at the stage yet that 1894 have backed out as there's still a lot of detail to come out from the club.

I'm worried they've overreached themselves and backed themselves into a corner making demands which cannot be granted.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

The lack of indicative pricing/conditions from the club has led to the current uncertainty, conjecture and unpleasantness on here.

It could've & should've been avoided.

The club will have a clear idea of the pricing model intended.

Please can the club reveal their indicative pricing plans, removing much of the uncertainty and allowing their 'customers' to consider their options.

Not too much to ask !!

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

When do people think the club will offer more details about expressions of interest in moving to the standing section, any new SCs/Flexis being offered and criteria to apply etc?

I wouldn't be surprised if we heard nothing further until the New Year. The final number of rail seats doesn't need much forward planning for instance and the process of selling the seats will be straightforward as demand will exceed supply easily.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

The lack of indicative pricing/conditions from the club has led to the current uncertainty, conjecture and unpleasantness on here.

It could've & should've been avoided.

The club will have a clear idea of the pricing model intended.

Please can the club reveal their indicative pricing plans, removing much of the uncertainty and allowing their 'customers' to consider their options.

Not too much to ask !!

They won't know the pricing model yet. They jut need to say that "As a side of the stadium built to encourage popluar support then we intend to work hard to provide coompeteticve pricing and access to all" or something.

 

[jrb]

Fans have to prove the demand will be more than 3000

Ah?!

 

[jrb]

If season tickets and match day tickets were half price, or a cheaper price, in a new singing and safe standing section on NSL2, then every Tom, Dick, and Harry would pile on to those tickets, regardless if they sang or not.

Affordable tickets are all good and well, and should be rolled out across the stadium in an ideal world, but affordable tickets aren’t going to get a large group of singers together in 1 section of the new North stand.

As it stand, SSL1 safe standing is going to be replicated on NSL2 safe standing. That isn’t a step forward. It isn’t different to what we have already got.

 

[Coatigan]

When do people think the club will offer more details about expressions of interest in moving to the standing section, any new SCs/Flexis being offered and criteria to apply etc?

I wouldn't be surprised if we heard nothing further until the New Year. The final number of rail seats doesn't need much forward planning for instance and the process of selling the seats will be straightforward as demand will exceed supply easily.

Probably when they feel comfortable they can rely on a set opening date, I would guess. Agree that anything before new year would be too soon to expect. Their statement said over the course ofnthe 24/25 season, so sometime between new year and May you would imagine.