82 | Rico Lewis - 2024/25

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BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
This.

For me, Lewis is more suited to a midfield role. His defensive skills currently aren't good enough.
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O think that's fair. He's brilliant but could be another TAA unless his defensive game matures. Hopefully it's just a case of a bit of experience plus physically filling out a bit. By no means an expert opinion as I'm a fat old **** with two left feet.
 
blueparrot said:
So you didn’t see Walker v Traore, Lewis kept closer to Traore than Walker didi.
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Do you know when a play comes on and they're 'not up to match speed'? You hear it quite often with subs, non??

So... what the exception here? And that's with age taken into account!

I remember Vinicius Jr tearing Walker a new one at the beginning of his encounter, cos he misjudged Vinny Jr's speed.

Not so much after that.
 
Wow, some really unfair criticism of this lad. He’s fucking mustard.

19 years old, being asked to play in several positions in the same game by the best manager to ever grace game and there are people saying he’s out of his depth. Unbelievable.

Thought he did ok yesterday. Not his best game but he didn’t do too much wrong and he is still learning. He hesitated on the ball when he was in a race with the fastest player in the league and wasn’t strong enough when traore got in front of him. None of our defenders could keep pace with traore.

Rico will be a starter for years at City.
 
JDV said:
Could he be a winger in the form of Bernardo who can come inside and ball play?
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If you look at how our wide players use the ball now in relation to maintaining possession and pulling 2 or 3 opposing player towards them, then I would say no chance. His qualities as I see them are positional play and a quick pass and move technique. This is more attuned to a middle of the pitch player. His problem will be there is a lot of competition in that area.
 
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Bigga said:
Do you know when a play comes on and they're 'not up to match speed'? You hear it quite often with subs, non??

So... what the exception here? And that's with age taken into account!

I remember Vinicius Jr tearing Walker a new one at the beginning of his encounter, cos he misjudged Vinny Jr's speed.

Not so much after that.
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Age isn’t taken into account at all. Walker is either as quick as he was or he isn’t. Saying play Walker because he was quicker a year or two ago is just daft.Subs getting up to speed is with the game ,not in a straight foot race which 2 years ago Walker would have stayed with Traore. Lewis for most games is a better fit for the team than Walker, especially with Rodri out,and will probably start more.
 
JDV said:
Could he be a winger in the form of Bernardo who can come inside and ball play?
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Don’t see the point. We’ve got proper wingers and if you want someone to largely just retain the ball out there(apart from Bernie) we’ve got Foden who will also get plenty of goals
 
Like most of his team mates he had a mixed game today with a few mistakes and a few decent runs
However he needs to start scoring goals because otherwise he'll end up as a peripheral squad player.
 
Some players don’t necessarily have to be specialists in one particular position. Their flexibility and intelligence can still make them indispensable to the team, especially when it is one like ours, where we have to keep making tactical and positional changes during games. There are technical aspects of his game that he needs to improve, but he’ll be in the squad and team for years to come, so plenty of time for that.
 
blueparrot said:
Age isn’t taken into account at all. Walker is either as quick as he was or he isn’t. Saying play Walker because he was quicker a year or two ago is just daft.Subs getting up to speed is with the game ,not in a straight foot race which 2 years ago Walker would have stayed with Traore. Lewis for most games is a better fit for the team than Walker, especially with Rodri out,and will probably start more.
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What a numbskull argument!

Firstly, I said Walker is STILL faster than Lewis. The implication of this is in prior posts as is the assertion that Lewis will NOT improve his speed, nor is a RB; a position you want him inserted into.

You are conflating the ability to play certain positions adequately as positions of preference or strength.

Walker likes to play CB, but in my opinion, it's not his strength. Lewis is a MF and RB is not his strength.

Posters need to stop the conflating nonsense.
 
Bigga said:
What a numbskull argument!

Firstly, I said Walker is STILL faster than Lewis. The implication of this is in prior posts as is the assertion that Lewis will NOT improve his speed, nor is a RB; a position you want him inserted into.

You are conflating the ability to play certain positions adequately as positions of preference or strength.

Walker likes to play CB, but in my opinion, it's not his strength. Lewis is a MF and RB is not his strength.

Posters need to stop the conflating nonsense.
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Martinelli didn't get a sniff in the other week against Walker, whenever there was a chase on he just gave up the ghost and saved his energy.

Arguably the fastest player in the premier league beat him once and the Rico fan boys want him thrown out of his position because of his "lack of pace" which is still considerably better than Rico's.

He's a midfielder is Rico but he'll always just be a squad player, he's nowhere near what we need, posters saying he is need to look at some of the great midfielders we have had and the ones we have that are coming to the twilight of their careers.
 
mexico1970 said:
Martinelli didn't get a sniff in the other week against Walker, whenever there was a chase on he just gave up the ghost and saved his energy.

Arguably the fastest player in the premier league beat him once and the Rico fan boys want him thrown out of his position because of his "lack of pace" which is still considerably better than Rico's.

He's a midfielder is Rico but he'll always just be a squad player, he's nowhere near what we need, posters saying he is need to look at some of the great midfielders we have had and the ones we have that are coming to the twilight of their careers.
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madloaf said:
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mexico1970 said:
Martinelli didn't get a sniff in the other week against Walker, whenever there was a chase on he just gave up the ghost and saved his energy.

Arguably the fastest player in the premier league beat him once and the Rico fan boys want him thrown out of his position because of his "lack of pace" which is still considerably better than Rico's.

He's a midfielder is Rico but he'll always just be a squad player, he's nowhere near what we need, posters saying he is need to look at some of the great midfielders we have had and the ones we have that are coming to the twilight of their careers.
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It does concern we when people label him a midfielder and not a full back.

Did he not come through the academy as a full back, and probably one that ventured into midfield at times?

He's absolutely not a regular midfielder at our level, and will never be one.

The standard of our midfielders has dropped over the last few years, with Rodri really holding it together.

We are in big trouble if we are relying on Rico becoming a stalwart in our midfield over the next 5 years.
 
Bigga said:
Explain how you manage to conflate speed and technique?

This will be interesting to hear...
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your words:

"As for Walker the speed he has left is more than what Lewis will ever achieve, so is STILL a better RB than he is"

so by your logic

traore >>> messi
 
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