Middle East Conflict

[mancity2012_eamo]

The word semitic itself is a bit suspect in terms of ethnology, based on biblical history (the sons of Noah) and invented by people who weren't "semitic". (Not the Celts!)

You mean, not our fault?
Hallelujah!

 

[cucumberman]

It's enough to beautify the innocent dead, and what other option did they leave for Israel?
Do not judge things from afar and from a hostile media, which tells the story of the children of Gaza, those children who have no chance of a normal life because they were born with hatred in their eyes and kisses in their beds.
The end of Hamas will give chance to millions
Who want another life

It’s not a one-way street.

We all want Hamas to end.

But we all want the far-right Israeli zionists to end too.

What reason was Hamas or any militias when not for the Nakbas, Sabra, Shatilla, Rafah by IDF?

Are they really the most moral in the world?

Just less than 24 hours ago, a child was shot right in the middle of an open street. His body was cut open. The crowd cautiously closing in to get a closer view of the injured child. And then after, the crowd airstriked.

Palestine child shot and the helpers airstriked

If that is the epitome of morality, who are we?

 

[BlueRockape]

I don't care how he died, the main thing is that this cruel killer is not here
And this is great news for the world and of course for us Israelis
- No terrorist will escape
From the long hands of our army! The whole world will understand and wake up- Hamas is nearly finished- hope for new meadleast very soon

For my two penneth you opened a huge can of worms in a war you cannot win

 

[tel aviv city]

So a leader and a party that has as its basis "From the river to the sea there will only be Israeli sovereignty" is one you don't support?

Did Israel want to occupy Gaza for 30 years? So why did we invest billions in walls in each of their cities?
After all, when we wanted the abductees in less than a year and there is no Gaza and not one of their leaders is alive,
Israel wants to live in the Jewish state surrounded by 20 Arab countries, and where exactly will we go, who hasn't realized yet that this state Israel will not fold and live on its sword forever!
Those who want to live by our side out of a desire to live and let live will quickly come to an understanding, unfortunately the sentence from the sea to the river only symbolizes the desire of the Palestinian people - we don't recognize our neighbors, it's just us

 

[cucumberman]

Did Israel want to occupy Gaza for 30 years? So why did we invest billions in walls in each of their cities?
After all, when we wanted the abductees in less than a year and there is no Gaza and not one of their leaders is alive,
Israel wants to live in the Jewish state surrounded by 20 Arab countries, and where exactly will we go, who hasn't realized yet that this state Israel will not fold and live on its sword forever!
Those who want to live by our side out of a desire to live and let live will quickly come to an understanding, unfortunately the sentence from the sea to the river only symbolizes the desire of the Palestinian people - we don't recognize our neighbors, it's just us

Do you wake up singing to this song everyday?



This song was written 95 years ago. Far more than 30 years as you mentioned. By the leader of the Revisionist Zionist of Germany no less.

 

[Shadz69]

Why doesn't this surprise me. Ireland is the most antisemitic non-Muslim nation on earth. It's even more antisemitic than many Muslims nations.

This is clearly bollocks,pro Palestinian positions aren't antisemitic but you have demonstrated the israeli cry antisemitism to try and stifle debate.
Irish people are anti occupation having resisted occupation for nearly a millennia so naturally we would side with any peoples who are brutalised and dehumanised having experienced it ourselves.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

This is clearly bollocks,pro Palestinian positions aren't antisemitic but you have demonstrated the israeli cry antisemitism to try and stifle debate.
Irish people are anti occupation having resisted occupation for nearly a millennia so naturally we would side with any peoples who are brutalised and dehumanised having experienced it ourselves.

Seems an odd statement, basically saying that nearly all the people of Ireland are antisemitic and not thinking that they have actual compassion.

Personally, I tend to stay away from religious stuff but do think that the Israeli government decided that all Palestinians are vermin so killing them is justified.

 

[tel aviv city]

Do you wake up singing to this song everyday?



This song was written 95 years ago. Far more than 30 years as you mentioned. By the leader of the Revisionist Zionist of Germany no less.

Do you wake up singing to this song everyday?



This song was written 95 years ago. Far more than 30 years as you mentioned. By the leader of the Revisionist Zionist of Germany no less.

You're talking to me about songs from 100 years ago, really.
I overcome with you 30 years of relative silence when the only ones breaking the silence are the same Palestinians who also bought the trust they called and made a living by virtue of them with permits to work in Israel, treacherous people who at the moment of truth waited where they lived and joined the terrorism of Hamas

 

[Blue and true]

All Israel friends
Bombing ?

If your friends are fighting in the IDF, then they are complicit in the deaths of those children. Just like anyone associated with Hamas is complicit in the deaths on Oct 7th.

And by the way, I'm fucking ashamed that people like you are City fans.

 

[Blue and true]

New Israeli strike kills at least 33, in north Gaza’s Jabalia

Yet another horrendous Israeli massacre happening right now

Updates: At least 33 killed in Israeli strike on Gaza’s Jabalia

These were the updates on Israel’s attacks on Lebanon and war on Gaza for Friday, October 18.

www.aljazeera.com

The area has been cut off with food, water and medicine

Genocide

It's not genocide, at least according to some dipshits on here.

History will remember every single one of these Netanyahu puppets, and not kindly.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

This is clearly bollocks,pro Palestinian positions aren't antisemitic but you have demonstrated the israeli cry antisemitism to try and stifle debate.
Irish people are anti occupation having resisted occupation for nearly a millennia so naturally we would side with any peoples who are brutalised and dehumanised having experienced it ourselves.

The difference between the Irish & Palestinians is that most Irish people fucked off to places like the UK and USA when the going got tough in Ireland. More people emigrated from Ireland (9m) than the peak, pre-famine population (8.5m). And when you add in all the descendants of those migrants that 9m is now probably over 100m, compared to around 5m in Ireland now.

But the similarity is that they both turned to bombing and murdering to get their own way. You should have more in common with the Jews, who fought against an occupying power to get a homeland.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Interview with Sinwar from 2021.

He says they don't want war or fighting and that his people deserve peace. Says they tried peaceful resistance against the israeli occupation but the world didn't give a shit. Points out that israel massacres the palestinian people and kills their women and children, says that he would attack military targets if they could but they don't heave the weaponry, unlike israel, so they resist with what they have (this stacks up tbf as Iran hit military targets in israel whereas israel just bombs everything and everyone - women, children, journalists, schools, mosques, hospitals... all fair game)

"Does the world expect us to be well behaved victims whilst we're being killed? For us to be salaughtered without making a noise"?

 

[robbieh]

The difference between the Irish & Palestinians is that most Irish people fucked off to places like the UK and USA when the going got tough in Ireland. More people emigrated from Ireland (9m) than the peak, pre-famine population (8.5m). And when you add in all the descendants of those migrants that 9m is now probably over 100m, compared to around 5m in Ireland now.

But the similarity is that they both turned to bombing and murdering to get their own way. You should have more in common with the Jews, who fought against an occupying power to get a homeland.

To be even handed the early Israelis used a lot of violence too.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

The difference between the Irish & Palestinians is that most Irish people fucked off to places like the UK and USA when the going got tough in Ireland. More people emigrated from Ireland (9m) than the peak, pre-famine population (8.5m). And when you add in all the descendants of those migrants that 9m is now probably over 100m, compared to around 5m in Ireland now.

But the similarity is that they both turned to bombing and murdering to get their own way. You should have more in common with the Jews, who fought against an occupying power to get a homeland.

Does the King David bombing not exist in that timeline?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Interview with Sinwar from 2021.

He says they don't want war or fighting and that his people deserve peace. Says they tried peaceful resistance against the israeli occupation but the world didn't give a shit. Points out that israel massacres the palestinian people and kills their women and children, says that he would attack military targets if they could but they don't heave the weaponry, unlike israel, so they resist with what they have (this stacks up tbf as Iran hit military targets in israel whereas israel just bombs everything and everyone - women, children, journalists, schools, mosques, hospitals... all fair game)

"Does the world expect us to be well behaved victims whilst we're being killed? For us to be salaughtered without making a noise"?

Don't tell me. He loves his granny & takes in stray animals. His version of 'peace' is one without a Jew within 1,000 miles.

But what we do know is that after winning the election, he massacred his political opponents and threw gay people off buildings. All accounts of him say he was a vicious psychopath. I'm worried that you've got yourself in a state where you see him as some sort of peace-loving hero.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Interview with Sinwar from 2021.

He says they don't want war or fighting and that his people deserve peace. Says they tried peaceful resistance against the israeli occupation but the world didn't give a shit. Points out that israel massacres the palestinian people and kills their women and children, says that he would attack military targets if they could but they don't heave the weaponry, unlike israel, so they resist with what they have (this stacks up tbf as Iran hit military targets in israel whereas israel just bombs everything and everyone - women, children, journalists, schools, mosques, hospitals... all fair game)

"Does the world expect us to be well behaved victims whilst we're being killed? For us to be salaughtered without making a noise"?

Such a peaceful, loving man. We’ll just forget he wanted to eradicate all Jewish people and he orchestrated a massacre of over 1,000 innocent people, he also led lots of gay people to their death. Other than that he’s great.

How on earth can you use him in any argument or discussion. Have you lost the plot or has your blind hatred for Isreal made you ok to support a monster like that?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Does the King David bombing not exist in that timeline?

The King David Hotel was the military headquarters of the British administration. The Irgun were certainly terrorists but it's not like they walked in to a tourist hotel and committed indiscriminate murder and rape, as well as take hundreds of hostages including old people, children and even babies.

 

[cucumberman]

Don't tell me. He loves his granny & takes in stray animals. His version of 'peace' is one without a Jew within 1,000 miles.

But what we do know is that after winning the election, he massacred his political opponents and threw gay people off buildings. All accounts of him say he was a vicious psychopath. I'm worried that you've got yourself in a state where you see him as some sort of peace-loving hero.

Curious, is the underlined a report linked to Sinwar? Other than the death of Ishtiwi (a Hamas senior commander) for embezzlement in 2016, and not thrown off a building, is there a record of Hamas having thrown gay people off buildings?

I do read extensively from Israel, Palestine and overall middle east libraries, and I have not heard of gay people thrown off buildings. ISIS yes. But Hamas throwing gay people off buildings, I have never encountered.

 

[robbieh]

You could make a case that Palestinian suffering over the last century puts them in a situation like the Jews found themselves in Europe . Unwanted, murdered and dispossessed of their property.

A potential solution. As Al Andaluz was part of the Islamic empire until about 1480, how about offering Palestinians a homeland in Southern Spain. The locals might not be happy but if the US has the will and supplies them with enough weaponry I'm sure they could prevail. Maybe push the Andalucians into Gibraltar.

 

[cucumberman]

The King David Hotel was the military headquarters of the British administration. The Irgun were certainly terrorists but it's not like they walked in to a tourist hotel and committed indiscriminate murder and rape, as well as take hundreds of hostages including old people, children and even babies.

The pre-IDF sects in the 12 months of 1947-1948 killed more than 160 British officers. In bars, tennis courts, outside houses, streets and alleyways, etc.

And remember Sergeant Martin and Sergeant Paice. Hung on the Netanya, the ground filled with landmines.