Wolves (A) | PL | Post-Match Thread

[stonerblue]

Dumb, dumb and dumber.

The channel i watched had McMinimum, Hart and Lampard in the studio. They were surprisingly good, made some excellent observations and had a bit of a laugh.

 

[SWP COME HOME!!]

Watching that YouTube video of the goal, the linesman does not put his flag up at any point during the duration of the video. Shame it didn’t go on a bit longer to see if he eventually did

 

[hammocity]

I have. But a) he’s injured and b) he’s getting on a bit

He's back in training and will still offer us plenty used sparingly, IE in the big games, however as you said hopefully get a player in with creativity in January.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Great analysis by Walcott here https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/videos/cp8m3l1jk66o

Unfortunately because of the sun it's hard to see exactly when the flag was raised. I guess that the liner said to the ref that Bernardo was offside but couldn't be sure from his angle whether or not he was interfering. Ref is also asking VAR to have a look which they do with all goals and then said to the liner, raise your flag and then we can have a look. On field decision was no goal although in the old days the ref would have run across to the liner and said why is your flag up as nobody was interfering, liner would have said I wasn't sure from this angle, ref would have said the goal is fine to stand and it's done and dusted. Instead we have this ridiculous media barrage of stupidity about should the goal have stood and trying to allude that other goals where players have stood right in front of the keeper affecting his eyeline have been disallowed. All conveniently forgetting the deliberate blocking of Ederson a few weeks ago by Arse which everyone said was great tactical play.

 

[Whether or not]

Obviously very happy with the win, but the ‘decision’ by Attwell to ask the ref to go to the monitor was an absolute farce.

The media have jumped on it now and collectively decided that Bernie (all 5 foot four of him and 9 stone dripping wet) backing in to the keeper briefly before the corner came curling in somehow impeded the keeper.

What a joke!!!

I don’t know how many times this season I’ve seen Eddie surrounded by players who are not the slightest bit interested in the ball (yes you Arsenal) and whose sole purpose is to shove and block Eddie from getting to the ball from a corner. Is any of that referred to VAR? Of course not.

Atwell has to be one of the biggest cheats going around and that referral to ask the ref to the monitor was just plain disgusting.

Luckily for us the ref overruled Atwell. Otherwise it would have been the biggest injustice of the season.

With respect mate, you have this the wrong way round. The goal was ruled out on the pitch and Atwell (VAR) instructed the ref to review it again, after which it was awarded, changing the on field decision.

 

[Tourist since 1971]

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Every paper carrying the same "controversial" headline, it's only their reporting that makes the perfectly good goal controversial.

There is no point giving ANY of the media the satisfaction of getting wound up about their coverage.
The problem they all have is that it is incredibly boring for their readers/viewers to see ‘Four times champions Manchester City, by far the best run club in the league, deservedly won as usual today, albeit a bit late this week’.
Where’s the fun in that?

 

[aka blue jambo]

I think the confusion has arisen because the on field decision was missed by so many. I'm sure the Sky commentators were making out the review was to disallow the goal as well which added to the confusion. Correct decision in the end though.

Exactly
The Sky commentary teamed caused all this furore

 

[.db.]

For everyone berating Attwell or VAR trying to fuck us over.

It was the on field team that tried to fuck us over.

VAR advised the ref to re visit the decision.

The VAR team worked in our favour.

I don’t think anyone tried to fuck us over.

The linesman was right to put his flag up because BSilva was in an offside position and from the linesman’s perspective he probably looked like he was in the keeper’s way.

This is pretty much his view of it. Not forgetting they see it once at one speed from one angle.



We can’t see that BSilva moved to the side from that view so neither will the linesman have.

I thought the officiating was spot on for it. The linesman rightly flagged and VAR rightly asked the ref to have a look at the screen to overturn the decision of no goal.

 

[Roachy]

Makes sense that the Wolves fans were cheering at something but I still haven’t seen the referee raising his arm or any footage of the goal being disallowed and again, for him to rule it out for offside there should have been some indication from the linesman too.

All seems a bit suss really but hopefully the audio recordings will be released next time Owen and Webb do their comedy duo routine

I suspect the cheer from the Wolves fans was possibly from a "VAR check" being displayed which they thought would lead to the goal being ruled out. I must admit, I thought that was what the check was for myself. It was a confusing 2 or 3 minutes all round.

 

[Sebi]

Best wishes to all Arsenal forums

 

[give it to gordon]

I don’t think anyone tried to fuck us over.

The linesman was right to put his flag up because BSilva was in an offside position and from the linesman’s perspective he probably looked like he was in the keeper’s way.

This is pretty much his view of it. Not forgetting they see it once at one speed from one angle.



We can’t see that BSilva moved to the side from that view so neither will the linesman have.

I thought the officiating was spot on for it. The linesman rightly flagged and VAR rightly asked the ref to have a look at the screen to overturn the decision of no goal.

The odd thing about that video is the wolves players haven't noticed the linesman flagging. The City players haven't noticed the linesman flagging.

I would have thought it would be the first things players do.

 

[Gingers Dad]

Football is not really for you pal.

Imagine if Pep subbed his top scorer and only striker when the team needed a goal

 

[Gingers Dad]

Obviously very happy with the win, but the ‘decision’ by Attwell to ask the ref to go to the monitor was an absolute farce.

The media have jumped on it now and collectively decided that Bernie (all 5 foot four of him and 9 stone dripping wet) backing in to the keeper briefly before the corner came curling in somehow impeded the keeper.

What a joke!!!

I don’t know how many times this season I’ve seen Eddie surrounded by players who are not the slightest bit interested in the ball (yes you Arsenal) and whose sole purpose is to shove and block Eddie from getting to the ball from a corner. Is any of that referred to VAR? Of course not.

Atwell has to be one of the biggest cheats going around and that referral to ask the ref to the monitor was just plain disgusting.

Luckily for us the ref overruled Atwell. Otherwise it would have been the biggest injustice of the season.

Didn't realise it was Atwell. The same ref who said that Rashford wasn't interfering with play when he shielded the ball for 20 yards until his team mate could hit his shot.

 

[GSW Blue]

The odd thing about that video is the wolves players haven't noticed the linesman flagging. The City players haven't noticed the linesman flagging.

I would have thought it would be the first things players do.

The linesman didn’t put his flag up.

 

[Akira]

Imagine Pep saying this about the Tarquin's?

He'd be up on FA charges in a heartbeat.

Maybe he should focus on progressing out of 20th spot than blaming refs and the "big teams" for his team's misery.

 

[SWPISHOME]

Haha. Haaland was literally a ghost out there, and the fact that people like you still defend him is admirable. He's on his way to being the best goal scorer of all time, but he shouldn't be above getting taken off when he looks as uninterested and, more importantly, as ineffective as he was yesterday.

Haaland didn't have a good game yesterday, Most weeks he's playing against three centre backs and trying to get a yard of space and keep them occupied something which he's the best in the business at doing.

For me personally I would have went mental if Pep subbed Haaland yesterday at 1-1, We needed a goal and the last thing we needed was our top goalscorer coming off as all he needs is half a yard to pull the trigger and score.

Numerous games in the past he wasn't really involved, Everton at home last season he barely got a kick and we were struggling to open the scoring and Erling came up with something out of nothing, That's just one example.

I understand your point of nobody should be above taken off but I think it would be a stupid decision to take Haaland off if you need a goal. That's just my opinion.

 

[SWPISHOME]

The linesman didn’t put his flag up.

Is this true?

I've seen numerous videos of the goal and didn't see the linesman raise his flag, I just thought I must have missed it.

Bizarre if that's the case.

 

[malg]

Watching MOTD2 O’Neill was calling for offside not obstruction so when he learned the laws you can’t be offside from a corner he’s switched it to obstruction, dickhead.

I think he was offside once Stones headed it. However, deemed not to be interfering with play (regardless of the Brian Clough quote).

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

From the bbc website:

It could, however, be argued Silva should have been penalised for a foul on the goalkeeper.

I don’t recall a similar plea when Eddie was fouled when the Arse got their second goal!

Had Liverpool scored the Stones goal there would be a completely different complexion in the report. Same thing happened yesterday in the MCWFC game - had it been the Rags who’d come from behind then it’s a completely positive slant!

 

[bitterblue78]

Remember there’s men out there that genuinely believe the Prem are on City’s side and will do everything they can to favour us, whist in the same thought are praying that we’re punished for the 115. I wonder who charged us with that then? The muffin man?

They walk among us.