Atmosphere 2024/25

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jitsubluedan said:
Was in my usual seat in CB1 yesterday and thought atmosphere was pretty flat; said to my lad that the only time the whole ground joins in is when it’s a simple chant where everyone knows/can follow the words i.e. Champions Again and Blue Moon. The overseas fans and most of the day trippers don’t know the other chants.

That said, it was difficult to pick up the other chants as the stands either side of the away fans usually start different ones and from where we are, you can’t hear either of them properly and consequently, aren’t sure which one to join in with.

Whilst I have no objection to casual fans, it is impacting on the match day atmosphere; most of them are there for the ‘experience’, rather than the game and therefore, aren’t as emotionally invested as the regular fans.

IMHO there are too many casual fans interspersed in the stands which dilutes the atmosphere.
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It's going to get worse every season
 
jitsubluedan said:
Was in my usual seat in CB1 yesterday and thought atmosphere was pretty flat; said to my lad that the only time the whole ground joins in is when it’s a simple chant where everyone knows/can follow the words i.e. Champions Again and Blue Moon. The overseas fans and most of the day trippers don’t know the other chants.

That said, it was difficult to pick up the other chants as the stands either side of the away fans usually start different ones and from where we are, you can’t hear either of them properly and consequently, aren’t sure which one to join in with.

Whilst I have no objection to casual fans, it is impacting on the match day atmosphere; most of them are there for the ‘experience’, rather than the game and therefore, aren’t as emotionally invested as the regular fans.

IMHO there are too many casual fans interspersed in the stands which dilutes the atmosphere.
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Sadly, with season tickets not being resold as season tickets and then many of those seats seemingly not going on sale to members on a match-by-match basis either (it has been a different random foreigner who half the time isn’t even a City fan next to me for the last two years), this is just going to get worse year on year.
 
M23 Citizen said:
Sadly, with season tickets not being resold as season tickets and then many of those seats seemingly not going on sale to members on a match-by-match basis either (it has been a different random foreigner who half the time isn’t even a City fan next to me for the last two years), this is just going to get worse year on year.
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95% of season ticket holders sat in silence yesterday ( as they do for every home game ).

Blaming tourists and non season ticket holders is too easy.

Having a few hundred singers amongst 50k home fans won’t create an atmosphere no matter where they are relocated.
 
Betterdeedthan red said:
It's going to get worse every season
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M23 Citizen said:
Sadly, with season tickets not being resold as season tickets and then many of those seats seemingly not going on sale to members on a match-by-match basis either (it has been a different random foreigner who half the time isn’t even a City fan next to me for the last two years), this is just going to get worse year on year.
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Agree that it is going to get worse, unfortunately. I usually receive a survey invitation after each game which asks about the atmosphere and I mark it down. It asks for comments and my suggestion is they have dedicated stands for local/ regular fans.

I can’t think of any other suggestion as the club are not going to give up the opportunity to sell reallocated season tickets at the full market price - which from their perspective, is understandable.

If we can’t make a game we pass our tickets on to friends/family, but I appreciate maybe some people may wish to ‘bank’ the credit for the following season’s renewal. Maybe if there was a scheme where the ticket could be transferred at the discounted price to a local fan, then it might help but I don’t think the club would allow it.

Notwithstanding the clubs’ view on the above suggestion, as we all know, transferring of tickets outside official processes does go on.

Indeed, when walking up for both the Fulham and the Sparta Prague games we witnessed touts with phones transferring tickets over to people who had just bought them.
 
Prophet of Doom said:
95% of season ticket holders sat in silence yesterday ( as they do for every home game ).

Blaming tourists and non season ticket holders is too easy.

Having a few hundred singers amongst 50k home fans won’t create an atmosphere no matter where they are relocated.
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I don’t disagree with you on season ticket holders not singing but as I stated in my original post, it is difficult to pick up which chant to sing. We tried a few yesterday - there was a smattering of the ‘follow, follow, follow’ one (updated version) and the ‘don’t these times..’ but as the different stands either side of the away fans sing different ones, it’s difficult to get one going.

I joined in on both where I could pick them up, but no-one around did. Whilst I take your point regarding there being a few hundred tourists amongst the fans; I see less and less familiar faces in our stand every week and people don’t like singing in isolation.

I do think my point on whether fans know the words or not is also part of it, given that the only 2 songs which gained any traction around the whole ground were Champions Again and Blue Moon.
 
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M23 Citizen said:
Yet the atmosphere was better against Watford in a competition we aren’t arsed if we go out in where there were about 600 away fans, then it was yesterday for a Prem game which is a much bigger occasion.
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A league game in October against bottom of the table opposition who we have no enmity for is no kind of occasion whatsoever. Never has been never will be.
 
Prophet of Doom said:
95% of season ticket holders sat in silence yesterday ( as they do for every home game ).

Blaming tourists and non season ticket holders is too easy.

Having a few hundred singers amongst 50k home fans won’t create an atmosphere no matter where they are relocated.
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Living up to your name. Bravo Sir !!!

We have thousands of fans that sing, not always in sync, granted, but when needed, we create a cauldron. As has been evidenced by several high profile players from opposition teams.

As a season ticket holder at Maine Road, on the Kippax when it was standing only, for many years, I don’t mind admitting that our atmosphere wasn’t always fantastic. In fact, on lots of occasions it was bobbins.

Yes, I would love to have a derby style atmosphere every week, but the reality is that we just won’t simply ever get that on a week on week off basis.

Are you a season ticket holder? If yes,are you in the 95% or 5% that you refer to?

Some games are electric, some aren’t, once people accept that, life will be much easier for those that are preoccupied with empty seats, no singing, late arrivals, half time early leavers, after half time late arrivals, early full time leavers, kids group singers, no singers, tourist fans, player allocation ticket holders, etc etc

All I can say is, I’m CTID, CTID, I know I am, I’m sure I am, I’m CTID
 
I've been in lots of different blocks over the years all over the stadium but against Sparta I was in 219 for the first time. I noticed different singing sections more than any other game. Songs starting in South stand lower, kippax corner and South stand level 3. Some songs didn't catch on in other parts of the stadium, dome did but were often out of sync.

I think we have plenty of singers but the problem is they're all scattered about in different stands. Hopefully the north stand extension will resolve this and unify the singers, hopefully.

I didn’t go yesterday but the atmosphere sounded pretty good on iptv.
 
bridgeblue said:
I know the atmosphere has been piss poor at times at home this season but in terms of excitement, so have the games. That said, I have just watched Arsenal Liverpool and thought the atmosphere was appalling. Very quiet for a lot of the game from both sets of fans. At least during most big games we are very good.
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Bigger the game, bigger the atmosphere, always been that way for all clubs.
 
youngbob said:
2. Drop ticket prices back under inflation and get the working class diehards back in. The best years the Etihad has ever seen for atmosphere were between 2009 and 2014, after the takeover and before the third tier was put on the South Stand. The Poznan Years, as they've been dubbed by others. That was because tickets were still affordable for people who remembered Maine Road - and the lower prices also encouraged young people aged 18-21 to get to games. Kids tickets were £95 for the season. The kind of demographic going to City games now is more monied but less energetic.
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The old working class diehards.
I'm working class and my season works out at under £27 per game.
Champions League just paid £25' for the Fyenoord game.
I would say that's working class prices
 
bennyboy said:
The old working class diehards.
I'm working class and my season works out at under £27 per game.
Champions League just paid £25' for the Fyenoord game.
I would say that's working class prices
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I think you're sadly one of the few people left in the stadium whose season ticket works out at less than £35 per game.
 
youngbob said:
2. Drop ticket prices back under inflation and get the working class diehards back in. The best years the Etihad has ever seen for atmosphere were between 2009 and 2014, after the takeover and before the third tier was put on the South Stand. The Poznan Years, as they've been dubbed by others. That was because tickets were still affordable for people who remembered Maine Road - and the lower prices also encouraged young people aged 18-21 to get to games. Kids tickets were £95 for the season. The kind of demographic going to City games now is more monied but less energetic.
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i'm never too sure what to make of this argument, how noise generation and passion is somehow linked to your 'class' (a term i bloody hate, but anyways....)

I understand the gentrification of football might create transient visitors (especially foreign holiday trippers or rich experience grabbers), which might not give you lots of emotionally invested supporters, but i see people of all backgrounds contributing to atmospheres, or not contributing !! , it doesn't seem to me to be simply 'give it back to working class'.

i dunno what i am, and i dont care, but i go along and shout quite a lot and have to put up with 'Working Class Wilf' next to me doing nothing but fucking complain constantly under his breath and then leaving on 80 because everything is 'shit these days'.
 
bennyboy said:
The old working class diehards.
I'm working class and my season works out at under £27 per game.
Champions League just paid £25' for the Fyenoord game.
I would say that's working class prices
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I’m in the same boat, but it’s the exception not the rule.
They offer up a few limited cheap season tickets so that when media outlets print the cheapest available league tables, City can say “look at us, we’ve got one of the cheapest season tickets in the PL” when in reality the vast majority of people are paying significantly more.
 
Different angles with no comms


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