Kamala Harris

crazyadi said:
@SebastianBlue

As I suspected, you can't.
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Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
I think there is certainly a strong shade of facism with them, but not quite Nazism which isn't exactly the same thing. A lot of the RW populists do tend to slip across that line from nationalism/patriotism to facism. However,having seen the stuff from the rally I actually think they are quite deliberately trolling people like you. You are taking the bait hook line and sinker. Carry on, I doubt it has political significance what watching you flap does have some comedic value.
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You do post some interesting and thought-provoking stuff (sometimes) and I think I'd welcome sharing a pie and a pint with you. I agree that the liberal-left can get paranoid about many things and I agree that "You Fascist!" gets thrown around as an insult so often that it can lose its meaning. And I distrust hyperbole, so I hope you're right in what you say here. But I think you're mistaken. I spent my professional life (teaching) getting kids to interpret evidence and make reasoned analytical arguments and it's by those standards that I've come slowly but steadily to the view that Trump is indeed a Fascist and that there are similarities between what's happening here in America now and what happened in Germany's Weimar Republic in the early 1930s. History doesn't exactly "repeat itself" but there are echoes of it, and that's what we've got here in 2024 from 90 years ago. I hope I'm wrong. But I'd rather be wrong and be a source of "comedic value" than be proven right too late if the modern Fascist gets in again.

Not flapping, just thinking.

By the way, you spelled "Fascist" wrong (again?) which doesn't do wonders for your argument.
 
TinFoilHat said:
"Country over Party"

"We might disagree but I won't exclude you from the debate..."

How much influence are our Labour party having over her campaign?

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Interesting, isn’t it. We hear many things that were in Labours campaign. Are they copying or using Labours influencers?
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Interesting, isn’t it. We hear many things that were in Labours campaign. Are they copying or using Labours influencers?
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It makes me wonder.

MSNBC just showed a snippet of her DC speech and it sounded pure Starmer. Along with a picture of her with "Country over Party" on a billboard behind her.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
Why don't you explain it? I'm a white guy -- I've not had it directed at me. You as you said before aren't. Probably would be helpful in context to discuss your own experiences too.
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Exactly, so you have no idea what racism feels like. So you are in no position to tell anyone what is or isnt racist. The irony of all this is that you are the racist. The idea that one race needs another to "defend" us because we are weak, reeks of superiority.
 
crazyadi said:
Exactly, so you have no idea what racism feels like. So you are in no position to tell anyone what is or isnt racist. The irony of all this is that you are the racist. The idea that one race needs another to "defend" us because we are weak, reeks of superiority.
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Where certain ethnic groups are in a minority, it may be necessary for the majority to stand up for them in certain circumstances. I don’t see that as racist, more common decency. Supporting someone does not suggest they are too weak to stand up for themselves.
 
crazyadi said:
Exactly, so you have no idea what racism feels like. So you are in no position to tell anyone what is or isnt racist. The irony of all this is that you are the racist. The idea that one race needs another to "defend" us because we are weak, reeks of superiority.
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Why are you lashing out?

I simply asked YOU to define it.

Why don't you?

Seems silly to suggest because I haven't experienced it I can't determine it. What I can't do is downplay someone's experience of it, which I'm not.
 
crazyadi said:
Exactly, so you have no idea what racism feels like. So you are in no position to tell anyone what is or isnt racist. The irony of all this is that you are the racist. The idea that one race needs another to "defend" us because we are weak, reeks of superiority.
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So, let me see if I understand your position:

If you are white, and don’t defend the rights and dignity of non-white people, you are racist.

If you are white, and do defend the rights and dignity of non-white people, you are racist.

Is that a correct understanding?
 
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