US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

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Fully aware of that. I haven’t actually been living under a rock for four years.

Price inflation of consumer goods has rocketed though and seriously hurt people in the wallet, particularly working class families. Rightly or wrongly (and in this case I agree, largely wrongly) the incumbent government will ALWAYS get a kicking for it. It’s politics 1.01.

People felt better off under Trump, and that’s the beginning and end of it. The rest is noise.
 
Well I thought for months that he would win but that result is a big one. How wrong were all those polls?

He has been crystal clear in how ruthless and autocratic and even vindictive he wants to be, and he has been given a massive mandate to do it. This must be how Americans want it to be
Polls were within error margins I think - it's almost exactly a tie. People ascribing false accuracy to polls, or superimposing their own desires on them is another thing. Plenty of the latter on here.
 
In all seriousness, this is the logical conclusion of the "Kamala was rubbish" brigade.

Me? I think the US decided they admire fascist bullies. It's not the first country to do so, and it never ends well.
I think Kamala's campaign was as good as can be.

It boils down to the different standards that the left and right expect of their politicians. The right have a sub zero standard, they just want an alpha male shithouse. The left worry about policy and nuance.

It feels like the only answer is for the right to trash the country and learn the hard way. As has happened many times with dictatorships all over the world.
 

Donald Trump has said he would "encourage" Russia to attack any Nato member that fails to pay its bills as part of the Western military alliance.
Hang on a minute Sunny Delight. Who the hell are you lecturing other leaders about paying bills?

6 times times you've filled for bankruptcy. You've been involved in over 4000 legal actions, defrauded clients, lied through your tupee, you owe billions. You live off others money, none of it is yours. You get a high insulting people, falsehoods, racism and mysogyny.

Well done America, here's your next President, Biff Tannen.
 
Don't dismiss the Chinese.
Too true.
Even Top Gear warned us 10 years ago that we would all be driving around in Chinese cars in the future.
EV's have accelerated that growth. Western manufacturers have been complacent. Tariffs are the only defence being offered by Europe right now.
 
Yes but I think you'll find a bit of the wreckage is going to bounce down the road and smack us all full on in the face.
Indeed. But doubt the current PM we've got is as likely to suck off the orange mad man at the rate the Tories would have.
 
The British PM doesn't work for anyone other than the British people.
Really. He's shit all over pensioners, farmers and private enterprise. He works for his clientele . I'm not sure we'll survive the next 5 years. His government is already resembling the shambles that was the Wilson Callaghan government in the 70s.
 
I think Kamala's campaign was as good as can be.

It boils down to the different standards that the left and right expect of their politicians. The right have a sub zero standard, they just want an alpha male shithouse. The left worry about policy and nuance.

It feels like the only answer is for the right to trash the country and learn the hard way. As has happened many times with dictatorships all over the world.
Totally agree. Let them get on with it and watch the fallout
 
Really. He's shit all over pensioners, farmers and private enterprise. He works for his clientele . I'm not sure we'll survive the next 5 years. His government is already resembling the shambles that was the Wilson Callaghan government in the 70s.

That’s right up there with the most hysterical waffle I’ve ever read on here, and this place is full of hysterical waffle.
 
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