I thought that was strange but I think overall they don’t want to rock the boat. They dont want to upset the Government or potential investors. Ratcliffe is friendly with Khaldoon who has huge influence in the Gulf. United need billons for their stadium development. I believe they have eased off. Ferguson and Gill have been marginalised. The old regime hated City.Not too sure on the rags under Radcliffe, they were more than happy to write a statement for the Premier League in the associated parties hearing on rules that are now deemed illegal. I wonder why?
Stefan does point out that there is still a big if about City's being found "guilty" but the matter of compensation does seem elastic and complicated to say the least. I have had mischievous thoughts about the APT award. Liverpool were loaned £250 million interest free by their owners. This was never repaid but provided the funds to buy Salah, Firminho and van Dyke. In 2018 these three were the backbone of the team which eliminated us from the CL. The loan was not against the rules (2021 edition) but it still breached rules on owner investment, as the IC found. How much compensation do you think we should receive?Great post. As you say, where does it end.
If City are cleared, I don’t think that alone will give us the basis to start a claim for compensation but if we also had strong evidence that all along this was being driven by certain clubs then surely we’d be able to claim compensation from those clubs for the clear and obvious reputational damage to our club and brand.
City should brief one of their go to journalists and actually name those same 4 clubs in Ziegler’s piece. Not outright accuse them of course but state “If City are cleared and it’s then proven that United, Liverpool, Arsenal, and Spurs were behind this in demanding they punish City regardless of whether any evidence existed or not then City will be putting in a claim for compensation against those clubs”.
Let’s see how the Cartel Cunts like it being thrown back in their faces!
What are you on about hedge funds for
They’ll want us gone before the club World Cup so they can replace us with one of their red darlings. The thought of us playing in that with the world wide exposure we’ll get scared the piss out of em!
They’ll want us gone before the club World Cup so they can replace us with one of their red darlings. The thought of us playing in that with the world wide exposure we’ll get scared the piss out of em!
Unfortunately how very true j.I don't think the cartel minded too much when we started winning trophies because they didn't ever envisage a time when we might overtake them in terms of worldwide exposure. When it became apparent that we were well on our way to overtaking them not just in terms of trophies but also the size of the club they realised they had to try and do something about it.
Westham ended up paying £20 million to Sheffield Utd following action bought by Sheffield Utd so he’s at least one club has achieved compensation“Five clubs applied for compensation when Everton were sanctioned for breaching Profitability and Sustainability Rules last season — Leeds United, Leicester City, Nottingham Forest, Burnley and Southampton — but those claims have since been withdrawn or are still unresolved.”
So no one who has applied for compensation has been successful….
Westham ended up paying £20 million to Sheffield Utd following action bought by Sheffield Utd so he’s at least one club has achieved compensation
Whilst I’m confident we will win the case, the outcome of losing the major charges could be endless and is uncomfortable to even contemplate.Westham ended up paying £20 million to Sheffield Utd following action bought by Sheffield Utd so he’s at least one club has achieved compensation
How long have we got to wait now it’s getting very boring and very annoying.
As @slbsn has said, most PL clubs will probably have given similar notice. Doubt anything Berrada said would sway United from taking that course of action either way.
Whilst I’m confident we will win the case, the outcome of losing the major charges could be endless and is uncomfortable to even contemplate.
West Ham paid Sheff Utd £20 due to 2 players 3rd party owned playing a few games and Sheff U being relegated.
The clubs that have missed Champ League qualification IF we are found guilty will argue they have missed tens of millions - multiplied by 10 seasons. And that’s before you look at those that have missed 1 place etc.
Trying not think about it and hope that like we all expect City win the case cause if we lose it will be chaos.
Isn't the commercial side of the club still in the hands of the Glazers and Ratcliff only has control over footballing decisions?Not too sure on the rags under Radcliffe, they were more than happy to write a statement for the Premier League in the associated parties hearing on rules that are now deemed illegal. I wonder why?
I think Tevez paid 26 times and Mascherano 16 times in that season so hardly a few but that season had WHU lost just one game it would have been them relegated and not Sheffield Utd. From memory the last game of the season WHU won the last game of the season away to Utd ( they won the league that season ) and Tevez scored the winner !Whilst I’m confident we will win the case, the outcome of losing the major charges could be endless and is uncomfortable to even contemplate.
West Ham paid Sheff Utd £20 due to 2 players 3rd party owned playing a few games and Sheff U being relegated.
The clubs that have missed Champ League qualification IF we are found guilty will argue they have missed tens of millions - multiplied by 10 seasons. And that’s before you look at those that have missed 1 place etc.
Trying not think about it and hope that like we all expect City win the case cause if we lose it will be chaos.
and wasn't Tevez still 3rd party owned at united?I think Tevez paid 26 times and Mascherano 16 times in that season so hardly a few but that season had WHU lost just one game it would have been them relegated and not Sheffield Utd. From memory the last game of the season WHU won the last game of the season away to Utd ( they won the league that season ) and Tevez scored the winner !
yep - and funnily enough there was a seamless 'transfer' to utd following that. hmmmm?I think Tevez paid 26 times and Mascherano 16 times in that season so hardly a few but that season had WHU lost just one game it would have been them relegated and not Sheffield Utd. From memory the last game of the season WHU won the last game of the season away to Utd ( they won the league that season ) and Tevez scored the winner !
Could relegated clubs then sue any club that took points off them and saw them demoted whilst their finances were reliant on ‘unlawful’ and ‘unfair’ shareholder/owner interest free loans?Whilst I’m confident we will win the case, the outcome of losing the major charges could be endless and is uncomfortable to even contemplate.
West Ham paid Sheff Utd £20 due to 2 players 3rd party owned playing a few games and Sheff U being relegated.
The clubs that have missed Champ League qualification IF we are found guilty will argue they have missed tens of millions - multiplied by 10 seasons. And that’s before you look at those that have missed 1 place etc.
Trying not think about it and hope that like we all expect City win the case cause if we lose it will be chaos.