PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[halfcenturyup]

So a new independent arbitration panel would be formed if we don't like the verdict.

If for some reason the legal process seems off on the 2nd panel, we may have option of the high court. I know some journalists have stated this isn't the case but I seem to recall @projectriver saying it would still be an option.

For that reason alone any verdict made by the panel would have to be strong enough to hold up in court.

Iirc, the club can appeal to a second panel that is chosen by Rosen, and then they can also appeal to an actually independent tribunal where the club can pick an arbitrator and agree on the third (on certain limited grounds). Appeal to the UK courts is extremely limited, iirc, but not impossible. I imagine part of the club's legal team is already preparing the grounds for the various appeals should the decision be unfavourable under various scenarios.

I am sure there is enough cover to ensure there is no "rogue" decision, though.

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

I sort of got that with the core charges- that are absolutely ludicrious. Either the world ISA standards are rubbish in PL eyes - or they accuse our auditors of being crooks. The proof will be fascinating and our auditors will fry the PL alive in the courts if they even try and prove it.

Is this for real:



If it is.. why doesn't that surprise me?

 

[halfcenturyup]

The charges against Everton and Forest mark the beginning of the self immolation of the Premier League…… they’ve introduced these profit and sustainability rules just to satisfy the cartel clubs. What will happen is as follows :-

1. League will enforce fines and points deductions for breaching their new rules
2. ⁠Clubs will shit themselves at the sanctions and will cut back on transfer spending and wages.
3. ⁠The best players will stop signing for English clubs and will start to play in other European leagues.
4. ⁠The quality of the league will drop.
5. ⁠TV and sponsors will reduce the money they put in
6. ⁠The league will become second rate as the commercial appeal falls


But at least United and Liverpool will be able to win again…… well done you pair of selfish cunts !!!

You aren't thinking strategically enough. How is this one?

October 2021 ESL announced
October 2021 ESL scrapped over fans' reactions
February 2023 PL allegations against City, press campaign for punishment begins
November 2023 Everton points deduction, press launch what about CIty part 1
January 2024 Everton and Forest charged, press launch what about City part 2, press launch anti-PL campaign part 1
March 2024 Everton and Forest points deductions, press launch what about City part 3, press anti-PL campaign part 2
November 2024 PL/ City panel meets
December 2024 Leaks from "officials from leading PL clubs" that no punishment for City
Early 2025, press outrage, press anti-PL campaign part 3
Mid 2025 ESL announces new format, invites United, Liverpool and others
Mid 2025 United, Liverpool say "not interested" but "fan pressure" against PL leads them to consider it
Late 2025 ESL agreed
2026 ESL starts

I love a good conspiracy theory, me :)

Moral of the story: most fans are brainless sheep who believe what they are told and what they want to hear, without engaging brain. Oh yes, and Masters is just a patsy, a trojan horse planted by United and Liverpool. A PL Platini, if you will.

 

[cheekybids]

You aren't thinking strategically enough. How is this one?

October 2021 ESL announced
October 2021 ESL scrapped over fans' reactions
February 2023 PL allegations against City, press campaign for punishment begins
November 2023 Everton points deduction, press launch what about CIty part 1
January 2024 Everton and Forest charged, press launch what about City part 2, press launch anti-PL campaign part 1
March 2024 Everton and Forest points deductions, press launch what about City part 3, press anti-PL campaign part 2
November 2024 PL/ City panel meets
December 2024 Leaks from "officials from leading PL clubs" that np punishment for City
Early 2025, press outrage, press anti-PL campaign part 3
Mid 2025 ESL announces new format, invites United, Liverpool and others
Mid 2025 United, Liverpool not interested but fan pressure against PL leads them to consider it
Late 2025 ESL agreed
2026 ESL starts

I love a good conspiracy theory, me :)

Moral of the story: most fans are brainless sheep who believe what they are told and what they want to hear, without engaging brain. Oh yes, and Masters is just a patsy, a trojan horse planted by United and Liverpool. A PL Platini, if you will.

I say it every time but Parry working for the EFL after dedicating his life to the Dippers

1991 Started working on planning the new premier league.
1992 Chief Exec Prem League
1998 - 2009 Chief Exec Dippers
2009 - 2019 Consultant including UEFA investigation panel of club financial fair play cases

Now his latest job is throwing shit at the premier league.

I worked with a devious **** like him & he tried to throw Masters under the bus for shit that he built.

He was chief instigator of FFP & the premier league & he turns up before all the problems using his client journalists with leaks & innuendo.

You may be joking but as a conspiracy it looks pretty good to me.

 

[I'm Blue]

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Or 39 murders

 

[salfordbluetrue]

the one thing that is relevant here is the PL do not need evidence or proof to find City guilty, they have punished plenty of others without it, but for 4 years now they have held off, my view is one or more of the G14 is pushing them, and the PL know full well that it is a cesspit of trouble, the wording of City`s CEO on the first UEFA punishment is very much a threat.

 

[Skrastins]

You aren't thinking strategically enough. How is this one?

October 2021 ESL announced
October 2021 ESL scrapped over fans' reactions
February 2023 PL allegations against City, press campaign for punishment begins
November 2023 Everton points deduction, press launch what about CIty part 1
January 2024 Everton and Forest charged, press launch what about City part 2, press launch anti-PL campaign part 1
March 2024 Everton and Forest points deductions, press launch what about City part 3, press anti-PL campaign part 2
November 2024 PL/ City panel meets
December 2024 Leaks from "officials from leading PL clubs" that no punishment for City
Early 2025, press outrage, press anti-PL campaign part 3
Mid 2025 ESL announces new format, invites United, Liverpool and others
Mid 2025 United, Liverpool say "not interested" but "fan pressure" against PL leads them to consider it
Late 2025 ESL agreed
2026 ESL starts

I love a good conspiracy theory, me :)

Moral of the story: most fans are brainless sheep who believe what they are told and what they want to hear, without engaging brain. Oh yes, and Masters is just a patsy, a trojan horse planted by United and Liverpool. A PL Platini, if you will.

also, there are a scenario that we join ESL if the verdict is against us, the ESL starts to be very popular and 'reds' start to loose money, with ESL having bigger ratings and better TV money and eventually join the ESL.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Or, they believe the Club lied to the accountants and auditors???

The clue is in the word "Auditor" it's definition and how they work.

 

[Dribble]

Politely as possible…Bollocks!

These are sophisticated people who know their decision is going to be pored over by the greatest legal minds in Britain. They will be ULTRA-CONSERVATIVE and will certainly not be swayed by the nonsense being spewed by no-name pundits & journos!

When shit gets serious, the bullshit is shoveled out of the room so adults can do their work.

The issue here is; Are the "sophisticated ultra CONservative" greatest legal minds in Britain adjudicating under FFP/P&S Rules, or UK Law?

Again, is any possible appeal adjudicated under FFP/P&S Rules, or UK Law? They aren't one & the same, because if it were the latter, we wouldn't be anywhere near this situation.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

The clue is in the word "Auditor" its definition and how they work.

Lets start there:

What exactly does an auditor do?

Auditors examine, analyze, and interpret accounting records to prepare financial statements, give advice, or audit and evaluate statements prepared by others. Install or advise on systems of recording costs or other financial and budgetary data.

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In short, “garbage in, garbage out.”

If City’s accounts balance and have records that help support those accounts, I don’t believe it us upto an auditor to determine the legality of each dollar on the page, but assure the accounts meet the standards required by standards and law…to the best of their knowledge, which I assume would not include any secret deals or money movements.