North Stand Construction Discussion

Invisible Man's Bandage said:
On a serious note, as it seems the rake will be the same as the existing NS2 (shallow) and it has 1500 more seats than SS3 (much steeper rake) then will the back seats be further away than the back of SS3?
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The rake/pitch of the slope is the same on the south stand as well btw. I.e the SS one isn't any steeper.

It is only a bit higher and further forward because it is an additional tier on top of tier 2, where as this one joins into tier 2. Rather than a difference of the rake.
 
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Norman kneejerk said:
Do you know how many levels of food/ beer outlets there will be.
I'm guessing the original on level one plus 3 more levels for the new stand before the hotel, sky bar etc.
If yes that's 4 in total compared to the the South Stand with 3, one for each tier.No doubt that's where corporate comes into it?
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Sorry meant to respond to this but slipped by.

See below level by level for ease, but as a summary it is an additional capacity for around 12,420 punters with access to various bars on different levels. Of which 500ish is the sky bar (true) hospitality and 300-600 is the GA+ on L1 of tier 2. Excluding the suite/bedroom level which is probably a capacity of circa 50.

Plus then the additional 'city square' covered area outside which has a capacity of 2800-3000 to gather.

The Ground Level (the bottom one in the set below) itself is also vastly expanded, onto the existing. If you follow the obvious curve, that's the existing everything beyond that is additional. Plus then the upper levels.

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The hospitality element is about 8% of the overall bar/concourse offering including the GA+. Less than 5% as true hospitality on the top level. Similar propositions as the seats themselves in the stand.

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It is an interesting video from Everton showing them around their new ground, their new South Stand is their home end it features at 7.28 in the video. Well done to Everton for their videos during the building of their new stadium

 
Coatigan said:
Sorry meant to respond to this but slipped by.

See below level by level for ease, but as a summary it is an additional capacity for around 12,420 punters with access to various bars on different levels. Of which 500ish is the sky bar (true) hospitality and 300-600 is the GA+ on L1 of tier 2. Excluding the suite/bedroom level which is probably a capacity of circa 50.

Plus then the additional 'city square' covered area outside which has a capacity of 2800-3000 to gather.

The Ground Level (the bottom one in the set below) itself is also vastly expanded, onto the existing. If you follow the obvious curve, that's the existing everything beyond that is additional. Plus then the upper levels.

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The hospitality element is about 8% of the overall bar/concourse offering including the GA+. Less than 5% as true hospitality on the top level. Similar propositions as the seats themselves in the stand.

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Thanks for the comprehensive answer. I had kind of forgotten about City Hall as well as City Square. So it looks as though the general punter will be able to pass through City Sq into City Hall within the stand or go up a level to another large set of outlets.
Thanks again for the explanation.
 
LEXSTARproject said:
It is an interesting video from Everton showing them around their new ground, their new South Stand is their home end it features at 7.28 in the video. Well done to Everton for their videos during the building of their new stadium

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To be fair, building a new stadium is going to draw a lot more interest than expanding one, even if it is part of a wider development like ours.

You can see just by this thread, there aren't significant numbers of people interested in watching construction updates. I'm sure you'd have a fair few more if we were building from scratch.
 
supercity88 said:
To be fair, building a new stadium is going to draw a lot more interest than expanding one, even if it is part of a wider development like ours.

You can see just by this thread, there aren't significant numbers of people interested in watching construction updates. I'm sure you'd have a fair few more if we were building from scratch.
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The thread has 14 thousand replies, and we’re well over a year away from the project being completed. So you can just imagine how many views the thread has had. Is there any way of finding out that figure?

Colin told me the viewing figures for his CP Overview videos on YouTube have increased substantially during the build as more and more people get to know about the build and the videos.

But you are right in the fact that a newly built stadium will always attract more viewers and clicks than a stadium and stand that is being expanded.

If United ever build their new tax payer stadium the viewing figures for that build on YouTube will be huge. There will be a YouTube drone war. With plenty of money to be made via YouTube and other social media websites like Tik-Tok, Facebook, Instagram, X, etc.
 
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Coatigan said:
Sorry meant to respond to this but slipped by.

See below level by level for ease, but as a summary it is an additional capacity for around 12,420 punters with access to various bars on different levels. Of which 500ish is the sky bar (true) hospitality and 300-600 is the GA+ on L1 of tier 2. Excluding the suite/bedroom level which is probably a capacity of circa 50.

Plus then the additional 'city square' covered area outside which has a capacity of 2800-3000 to gather.

The Ground Level (the bottom one in the set below) itself is also vastly expanded, onto the existing. If you follow the obvious curve, that's the existing everything beyond that is additional. Plus then the upper levels.

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The hospitality element is about 8% of the overall bar/concourse offering including the GA+. Less than 5% as true hospitality on the top level. Similar propositions as the seats themselves in the stand.

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You probably remember? According to Danny Wilson, via Tim, the location of those GA+ seats on NSL2 seats hasn’t been decided yet. That’s what I think Tim posted on the thread after the OSC presentation. Tim will confirm if I’m right or if I’m wrong,
 
jrb said:
The thread has 14 thousand replies, and we’re well over a year away from the project being completed. So you can just imagine how many views the thread has had. Is there any way to find out that figure?

Colin told me the viewing figures for his CP Overview videos on YouTube have increased substantially during the build as more and more people get to know about the videos.

But you are right in the fact that a newly built stadium will always attract more viewers and click than a stadium and stand that is being expanded.
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I took the post to be a dig at the club not doing more PR around it. Barca have a livestream of theirs too. But I can get why the club haven't. We will get a time lapse and some more from them closer to the time. And CP is giving us what we want in the meantime!
 
supercity88 said:
I took the post to be a dig at the club not doing more PR around it. Barca have a livestream of theirs too. But I can get why the club haven't. We will get a time lapse and some more from them closer to the time. And CP is giving us what we want in the meantime!
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I was told there was at least 1 specific reason why the club hasn’t live streamed the build. I have to accept that valid reason. I’m sure there are other reasons as well.

But it is disappointing that the build wasn’t at least live streamed from a distance, and not close up to the construction site, like the Coop Live Arena was. From a distance you can still see the build without seeing what’s happening close up on the construction site.

There is a camera on top of the closest spiral on the East stand to the construction site. I don’t know if it’s a timelapse camera or a security camera? I posted a picture if it.

Therme have a live webcam on top of the Palazzo tower overlooking the Therme Manchester site. And a very neat and tidy remediation job they are doing with it atm.

Webcam livestream - Trafford: Trafford Centre

Webcam livestream - Trafford: Trafford Centre, provided by Windy.com
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Coatigan said:
Sorry meant to respond to this but slipped by.

See below level by level for ease, but as a summary it is an additional capacity for around 12,420 punters with access to various bars on different levels. Of which 500ish is the sky bar (true) hospitality and 300-600 is the GA+ on L1 of tier 2. Excluding the suite/bedroom level which is probably a capacity of circa 50.

Plus then the additional 'city square' covered area outside which has a capacity of 2800-3000 to gather.

The Ground Level (the bottom one in the set below) itself is also vastly expanded, onto the existing. If you follow the obvious curve, that's the existing everything beyond that is additional. Plus then the upper levels.

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The hospitality element is about 8% of the overall bar/concourse offering including the GA+. Less than 5% as true hospitality on the top level. Similar propositions as the seats themselves in the stand.

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Does anyone have any more info on who can access “City Hall”? The plan seems to suggest you can walk to/from EL1 (where I am) which would be good.
 
jrb said:
You probably remember? According to Danny Wilson, via Tim, the location of those GA+ seats on NSL2 seats hasn’t been decided yet. That’s what I think Tim posted on the thread after the OSC presentation. Tim will confirm if I’m right or if I’m wrong,
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Yeah he said Danny W. had said the location was still open to debate. I don't particularly believe him (Danny rather than Tim) on that one, I think it is pretty set. I found the recent statement of capacity of the GA+ bar being 300 much more interesting fwiw.
 
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Coatigan said:
Yeah he said Danny W. had said the location was still open to debate. I don't particularly believe him (Danny rather than Tim) on that one, I think it is pretty set. I found the recent statement of capacity of the GA+ bar being 300 much more interesting fwiw.
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So do I.

Where else are those GA+ seats going to go on NSL2 to attract City fans to pay more for them? Not the sides, not the back, not the middle, no close to the 3000 safe standing seats.
 
HelloCity said:
There’s no where else realistically feasible to put the seats.
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There are loads of places they could go.
With bars that could service them

But to command the +, that is the most obvious place for a premium.
 
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