PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Regardless of how you feel about the fella, leaking subscriber names to win a Twitter spat is one of the most unprofessional things I've ever seen from someone. It's honestly shocking, and potentially a massive fine if someone wants to take it further. What's he thinking?
 
JewelZee said:
How do I know what? That SM distancing himself from the case if he thought things were going bad isn't even an option? What are you smoking friend?

Also, PofD claimed that Tolmie's posts indicate that TH doesn't understand the PSR rules when in fact it's the complete opposite. Tolmie suggested we did not go the shareholder loan route because we may have been prescient enough to foresee these loans eventually having to be included in the calculations of a club's PSR. Personally, I think that's a bit of a stretch but it's 100% NOT an indication of Tolmie not knowing what he's talking about in terms of PSR. Quite the opposite.

PofD has some sort of Schleprock shtick going, I get it, but really he's just a cartoon version of the Grim Reaper...
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I think some people are over thinking what he actually wrote; I read it that if you were dodgy enough to put through inflated sponsorships, why wouldn't you also take the benefit of the zero interest loans that you can get from your owner?

I'm not sure he was saying that we could have gone the loan route instead of the dodgy revenue route, more so saying that if you were guilty of cooking the books, wouldn't you have taken advantage of the loans as well?

Also, ignoring FFP/PSR, there are huge benefits of having an interest free loan even if it's just for balance sheet purposes, so IMO we didn't go down that route because we envisaged it ended up in us needing/wanting to challenge it further down the line.

May be wishful thinking on my part, but let's be clear, these guys are thinking 10 years in advance, not 10 weeks.
 
blueste41 said:
He has clearly come to this conclusion on the basis that he prefers UEFA's verdict! Do these people not realise how fukin transparent their agenda is?

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Dodgy CAS hearing? Is that **** on drugs or what? It's only dodgy because it didn't go the way he wanted. Fucking prick!
 
M18CTID said:
Dodgy CAS hearing? Is that **** on drugs or what? It's only dodgy because it didn't go the way he wanted. Fucking prick!
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What always amuses me on these kind of takes is that for years and years UEFA were vilified as being corrupt, "UEFA MAFIA" etc etc. Then they charge us, only for an independent court (the highest possible court too I should say) to completely exonerate us and all of a sudden UEFA were the good guys and it's the court which is "dodgy". Make it make sense!
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Can you translate "non conclusive due to the source"? Not entirely sure why I'm wasting my time trying to work out what he's havering about, but since you've posted that's pretty much how you see it...what does it actually mean?
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Maybe the source(s) are the hacked, illegally obtained emails provided by the thieving convicted blackmailing **** Rui Pinto.
 
manimanc said:
Their delusion is off the scale.
These are the pricks who was so cocky as they swept everything up that they sung they do what they want.
They can't match us on or off the pitch so bang goes them having any normal conversation or neutral ground to stand on so what is their go to phrase they've all adopted?
We've cheated the system. Lol. Isn't it so immature.

And I tell you why they have that outlook. It's a generational and social media thing. I played my son at table tennis ages ago. Me, I'm 50, overweight and have bad knees. My lad is young, energetic, and has that sporty streak in him. I had him dancing all around the table, and you know what his first words to me was?

I'm cheating. I'm fuckin cheating. I was literally stood still like a fat wobbling jelly but putting shots away like a pro and he couldn't hack it. So out comes the cheat phrase.
Pretty much like all the pricks on social media. They got their fingers in their ears and call us cheats. They don't know anything else.


(Well, that's my take on proceedings anyway)
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. They can bang the cheats drum as much as they want but the fact is we've not been fixing matches or buying off referees. We've never resorted to the kind of tactics that Arteta's Arsenal have been guilty of. And - since we started winning trophies again in 2011 - certainly not had any of our managers manipulate referees on an almost weekly basis like Ferguson did for many a year. If these cunts down the road want to talk about cheating then they need to look a lot closer to home because that was cheating in plain fucking sight and every fanbase in the country was more than wise to the fact.

Of course, none of that alters the fact that we're being accused of some very serious financial breaches and we'll need to go on to clear our name to remove that particular cloud that's been hanging over us but as things stand we've done fuck all wrong, and we've certainly never blatantly cheated on the pitch on an industrial scale, unlike certain other clubs. They're the real cheats, and that's before we get on to the suspected behind-the-scenes corruption that drove the Premier League to level the charges at us in the first place.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
What always amuses me on these kind of takes is that for years and years UEFA were vilified as being corrupt, "UEFA MAFIA" etc etc. Then they charge us, only for an independent court (the highest possible court too I should say) to completely exonerate us and all of a sudden UEFA were the good guys and it's the court which is "dodgy". Make it make sense!
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Don’t forget the switch the media and public opinion did on Uefa with their mishandling of crowds in the 2022 champions league final. Everyone came out to bat for Liverpool then, quiet when it was City being screwed over though.
 
I'll say it again but why on god's green earth are we even including this attention seeking **** Harris in any of our business?

Why aren't you blocking him on twitter? Why are you giving the goggle eyed freak air time? Is there absolutely anybody out there who seriously believes this city hating twat has managed to get his hands on any private or important documents to do with the 115?

He is an oxygen thief, a racist, a city hating patsy who is having his pants pulled down by everyone in cahoots with him.
 
blueste41 said:
He has clearly come to this conclusion on the basis that he prefers UEFA's verdict! Do these people not realise how fukin transparent their agenda is?

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Isn't it strange how he interprets the entirely independent and impartial CAS hearing as 'dodgy' but sees no problem with UEFA, an organisation with a long track record of corruption. Could it be because that simply wouldn't fit the narrative?
 
KS55 said:
Once the PL issued their charges (or even earlier), you can be sure our auditors carried out a lengthy check of the relevant job bags. They will have traced the origins of monies and their route into City’s coffers. They will have reconstructed the audit trails. If not satisfied, they would have resigned.
You can be sure that we have not deceived our auditors.
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Agreed. The auditors also had all the Der Spiegl claims and CAS statements. Surely they would have spotted anything wrong.
 
manimanc said:
I'll say it again but why on god's green earth are we even including this attention seeking **** Harris in any of our business?

Why aren't you blocking him on twitter? Why are you giving the goggle eyed freak air time? Is there absolutely anybody out there who seriously believes this city hating twat has managed to get his hands on any private or important documents to do with the 115?

He is an oxygen thief, a racist, a city hating patsy who is having his pants pulled down by everyone in cahoots with him.
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And a fraudster if he's charging people for "new proof" that doesn't exist. I'm not on the cesspool that is twitter but has anyone considered reporting it?
 
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KS55 said:
It’s a criminal enterprise. Police have brought down some major drug gangs by perusing stuff that the dealers thought was secret. Don’t go there.
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It really isn’t a criminal enterprise mate, it’s a more secure way to access the internet, although you can indeed source various types of criminality on the dark web

Imo, everyone should be using Tor, a dark web browser, along with a vpn for browsing the normal internet as it’s far more secure than the likes of Google

My understanding is that everything you do in Tor is essentially encrypted, so it gives you an added layer of security (hence why it’s popular with the criminal underworld)

That’s my basic understanding of it anyway & if I’m correct, I’ve got no idea why this isn’t advertised as a secure way to access the internet (possibly because data is king & Tor would put a stop to data collection??)

Ps I don’t use it myself as I cba trying to figure it out, but have mates who do
 
Maly said:
It really isn’t a criminal enterprise mate, it’s a more secure way to access the internet, although you can indeed source various types of criminality on the dark web

Imo, everyone should be using Tor, a dark web browser, along with a vpn for browsing the normal internet as it’s far more secure than the likes of Google

My understanding is that everything you do in Tor is essentially encrypted, so it gives you an added layer of security (hence why it’s popular with the criminal underworld)

That’s my basic understanding of it anyway & if I’m correct, I’ve got no idea why this isn’t advertised as a secure way to access the internet (possibly because data is king & Tor would put a stop to data collection??)

Ps I don’t use it myself as I cba trying to figure it out, but have mates who do
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chris85mcfc said:
I think some people are over thinking what he actually wrote; I read it that if you were dodgy enough to put through inflated sponsorships, why wouldn't you also take the benefit of the zero interest loans that you can get from your owner?

I'm not sure he was saying that we could have gone the loan route instead of the dodgy revenue route, more so saying that if you were guilty of cooking the books, wouldn't you have taken advantage of the loans as well?

Also, ignoring FFP/PSR, there are huge benefits of having an interest free loan even if it's just for balance sheet purposes, so IMO we didn't go down that route because we envisaged it ended up in us needing/wanting to challenge it further down the line.

May be wishful thinking on my part, but let's be clear, these guys are thinking 10 years in advance, not 10 weeks.
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Yes, I was referring to an earlier post Tolmie made. The more current one you are referring to says exactly what you are saying in your second paragraph...
 
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