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paulchapo said:
I wouldn't be so sure. He sounds defeated in that interview and baffled as to what more he can do. One thing for sure is all the tactics in the world won't help when somebody makes criminal mistakes like Gvardiol did. He wasn't the only one, Akanji almost cost us in the first half too.
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and second half. Passing to Akanji is like passing to a brick wall, it just bounces straight back to you
 
argyle said:
That's just in hindsight.

There were plenty of people in the match thread that wanted Gundogan off and people questioning all week why McAtee doesn't start.

It was 3 mistakes and they capitalised on all of them.

It happens. But we didn't lose.
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We did lose though. We lost any belief and confidence we'd gained from all the hard work of going 3-0 up. Even worse it's put even more doubt and jitters into players already shell shocked by our recent dreadful run. On top of that it's made finishing in the top eight of the champions league group almost impossible. I think we have to win our three toughest games on paper to have a chance. It's probably a blessing in disguise as no way this group are anywhere near winning it this season.
 
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Prophet of Doom said:
hilarious that some on here will blame the players and not Pep.

If you make 3 subs on 75 mins at 3-0 and draw 3-3 that is on the managers toes.

Something rotten in that dressing room and the buck stops at one man. Well 2 actually - Txiki should be nowhere near the club when they look to sign somebody to save the season in January. LFC Utd Villa coming up in December and every club in Europe knows the weaknesses that can be exploited in this City team.
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Complete nonsense.
Not one of the subs were at fault for the individual errors that led to the goals.
 
stan bowles said:
If you were a DOF and you see the manager staring, head down at the ground for nearly a minute when his team is leading 3-1 and they need some guidance and inspiration to see them over the line after FIVE consecutive losses, you may think the manager isn't doing his job properly.
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Pep's reaction was way over the top. A serious lack of composure and a complete inability to settle his squad down...this show is over my friends...
 
The Black Shed said:
I'm still stunned by that. At the moment every single mistake leads to a goal and that for me is the problem. We are not clinical with mistakes offered to us, whereas opposing sides are.
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You reap what you sow, This is down to training or lack of it
City and Pep are down to the bare bones and that is why players are being allowed to get away with it.
Pep is cutting corners in training because he has to protect the players that are not fully fit or just coming back from injury

When you see Walker getting outrun and treading water you know he's not training fully, then you see players not pressing or wanting to put a tackle in or even rush the keeper that comes from not training and cutting corners

Pep would never let this sort of thing happen, He's the best manager in the world and he's letting players off the hook
Sorry manager should not let this happen,

If City are cutting corners and defending it with the success over the last 9 years then it's in a bigger mess than we all think, Rodri long term injury should never affect a club like this, it's poor right across the board for letting that sort of thing to happen
 
Twisted-wheel said:
Come on! How many times has he coming steaming out 25 yards out of his area and got nowhere near the ball, I’ll tell you, too many times. If you cannot guarantee 100% that you can meet that ball and clear then you don’t go for it
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How many times has he come steaming out and won it..it's a decision he has to make because the defence has parted like the red sea..
He's stopped plenty of attacks doing that and yes occasionally he will fuck up but he's not a clown of a keeper.
 
GoatersLeftShin said:
Absolutely pathetic and ANOTHER example of a couple of quick goals leading to a total collapse. Real, Lyon, Liverpool, Monaco, Sporting, Feyenoord have all shown what to do. Brighton, Bournemouth and Spurs now as well.
The teams picking us off aren't top class, they just play with pace. We've been found out and no player is prepared to stand up as a Captain and rally the players.

I just don't see our defence working well enough to stop any team at the minute. Quite simply, it's rubbish. The structure of the team is well off and it's every player who looks well below their best.

I don't know what we have to do against Liverpool but we can't defend, don't create clear chances and Haalands off form. Our passing is slow, dull and predictable and just ineffective.

Pep needs to roast the fucking lot of them in that dressing room. We need BIG changes.
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I'm with you on everything except Haaland being off form. I thought he's looked decent, despite not being prolific. Feed him scraps and he ain't gonna do much. 1 great ball across the 6 yard box and he bust his gut to put it in for the third goal.

I like Ederson, and his distribution is invaluable but he has to pay a price for his shitshow tonight, so I hope to see Ortega in goal on Sunday at Anfield.

What happens to the rest of the defence; God knows - but I'd like Ake to be at left back as he generally does a decent job on Salah. So, what to do with Gvardiol? If we have other choices for central defence, I'd put him as sub, or, put him in as a holding midfielder so we don't have to play Gundogan there as the scousers will piss all around and all over him.

Midfield - get KDB in at the start. Everyone else is injured or off form.
 
Pep and Begiristain are both to be plamed for the current situation. They let the team age and rely on one or two players without adequate covering or replacement plan.Add to that the fact is that Pep is stubborn and continues to use some players who are not good enough to perform and represent City level.
 
I know some will think I’m joking but I hope they have a good therapist because there has to be a huge mental component this. There is absolutely no self belief right now. No support amongst the team for one another. This is just as important as the skill piece.
 
Gray said:
The game at home against Southampton was where I saw the writing on the wall, absolutely pathetic display that foretold what was to come.
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Southampton, Brentford and Fulham. We won all three but I stood there gobsmacked as these three bang average sides totally outplayed us for large portions of the game. At times we couldn't get the ball.
 
stan bowles said:
Ake will have to start and hopefully see the game through. There's no way Gvardiol can start after tonight and Spurs.
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Absolutely not. Unbelievable that tonight from him to add to his Saturday shitshow.

We won’t be beating Liverpool whoever we play there. Salah will have Gvardiol on toast if he does risk him.
 
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