PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[bobbyowenquiff]

What if the PL have irrefutable proof? Would it not be a quick resolution in that instance too? ;)

Edit: I'm not saying they have of course but a quick resolution might not necessarily mean it's good news

If the PL had proof it would have been done and dusted five years ago. And it would have been leaked out in advance. United would not have touched Berrada.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

The panel, going through the PL's evidence...

PL Independent panel

 

[dadnlad]

To anyone who know how these things work (I get it might be different in a sporting context), will we be given a date when the decision will be made public? Or will one day the news just break?

Check @slbsn bookings for talksport ;)

 

[hello]

No it doesn't, although I imagine the panel members have a pretty good idea what they think. Next they have to deliberate together for a while, then write a 500 page reasoning before any announcement. The two parties will get an embargoed copy of the judgment for review before it is announced, but no-one else should know anything until it is made public.

At least three months I imagine. The APT reasoning took three months and that was just 190 pages ......

Fully agree with the thoughts behind the timeframe, however if it’s largely good news for city I expect the reasoning to not take as long as apt as so many of the alleged breaches are interlinked and one of the panel members will have a shit hot pa whose a word wizard with copy & paste.
Regardless the reasoning will be so stupidly repetitive the shit hot pa will need new ctrl & v keys ;)

 

[crystal_mais]

If the PL had irrefutable proof it would have been leaked to every media outlet going. Leak like sieve when it’s in their favour.

one of City's biggest reasons for not providing all items was a lack of trust as the PL leaks like a sieve. I think it was in the best interests of all parties that this has been totally silent with no leaks, thus not to give City an upper hand in this argument. Maybe NDA's signed for the process.

 

[117 M34]

The loser

What if we are found 'guilty' of some but not others?
Could both sides appeal?

 

[Bluewonder]

The quicker the better for us. If we have irrefutable proof it should not take that long, at least on the substantive charges.

Indeed, you'd think a quick judgment would indicate things have gone in our favour.

 

[give it to gordon]

I'm abit thick when it comes to this type of stuff.
I don't understand how you can sit through 10 weeks of a hearing and not have made your decision by the end of that.
Why does it need another month or so ?

 

[Keith Moon]

Keith didn't think his name sounded posh enough so he changed it

WTF!

 

[mancboy]

I'm abit thick when it comes to this type of stuff.
I don't understand how you can sit through 10 weeks of a hearing and not have made your decision by the end of that.
Why does it need another month or so ?

Its not so much about coming to the decision as much as it is about justifying that decision and the consequences of it that will take the time.

 

[give it to gordon]

Its not so much about coming to the decision as much as it is about justifying that decision and the consequences of it that will take the time.

So they could give the decision now but give their reasons later

 

[M18CTID]

If the PL had irrefutable proof it would have been leaked to every media outlet going. Leak like sieve when it’s in their favour.

I don't disagree but I do think this has been more watertight that when UEFA were leaking shit

 

[dadnlad]

I'm abit thick when it comes to this type of stuff.
I don't understand how you can sit through 10 weeks of a hearing and not have made your decision by the end of that.
Why does it need another month or so ?

I'd guess their summing up has to be water tight legally which takes time
Stefan has answered on twitter thread

 

[M18CTID]

If the PL had proof it would have been done and dusted five years ago. And it would have been leaked out in advance. United would not have touched Berrada.

Again, I don't disagree. I guess I'm just a little bit nervy about jumping to positive conclusions if the verdict is out quicker than expected

 

[Prophet of Doom]

We wont need to wait for a judgement. Just wait to see whether we sign a defensive midfielder for £50-£100m in the first week of Jan.

If we do happy days …..if we don’t then start worrying

 

[Gazza]

WTF!

How dare you commoners come on here.

 

[Paladin]

I'm abit thick when it comes to this type of stuff.
I don't understand how you can sit through 10 weeks of a hearing and not have made your decision by the end of that.
Why does it need another month or so ?

Think back to the CAS case. Nearly every decision was 2-1, so these things aren't always clear cut. Think also of juries. They hear all the evidence, and then have to discuss amongst themselves for hours, days, sometimes weeks, trying to reach a common understanding on the legal points.

 

[Stoned Rose]

I'm abit thick.

;)

 

[mancboy]

So they could give the decision now but give their reasons later

absolutely not, when they give their decision they have to justify it from a legal standpoint whatever it may be hence the need to create the document with the reasoning in. They would leave themselves open to all kinds of legal challenges if a decision was given without the requisite reasoning being available to all parties and thats what will taken the time, even if they go ahead and throw out the majority of the charges they have to justify why they have done that in writing and you know what legal people are like (why write 5 words when 500 will do) sorry to all the legal folk but you have to justify your money somehow ;)

 

[CC1]

No it doesn't, although I imagine the panel members have a pretty good idea what they think. Next they have to deliberate together for a while, then write a 500 page reasoning before any announcement. The two parties will get an embargoed copy of the judgment for review before it is announced, but no-one else should know anything until it is made public.

At least three months I imagine. The APT reasoning took three months and that was just 190 pages ......

Arsenal know already :-).