10 | Jack Grealish - 2024/25

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Lavinda Past said:
Jack's play when he was at Villa reflected his.personality. He was a joy to watch when in full flow.

Jack's play at City under Pep relects Pep’s rigid approach to his system. Pep has killed Jack's natural style.

You can take the lad out of Birmingham, but it helps if you let him bring his game with him.
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It isn’t on pep that he hasn’t scored for 12 months, ok maybe pep has told him to play safe.

At some point, you have to just think for yourself and do what feels right in that moment, use your instinct. He’s been a passenger for a while now, that’s on him.
 
ShaunMCFC said:
It isn’t on pep that he hasn’t scored for 12 months, ok maybe pep has told him to play safe.

At some point, you have to just think for yourself and do what feels right in that moment, use your instinct. He’s been a passenger for a while now, that’s on him.
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Have you not noticed that Pep's teams are full of players who don't seem to be allowed to 'play for themselves', due to a very rigid system?

Grealish is no different to Alvarez, Jesus, Cole Palmer etc... shoehorned into a system that limited their ability to play natural game.
 
Pep's system isn't rigid but it is highly demanding, especially on the defensive side and yet it still highly creative. Jack has provided flashes but he has been heavily rotated during his time at City so has struggled to find rythm. Otherside of the coin is plenty of creative players have actually thrived under Pep at all his clubs.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Stuck out in a shit villa side. Never good enough for the very very top, regardless of how he's used. Just a poor signing, didn't excite me at the time and hasn't done since. For £100m, it's just insane.
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Said this from day 1......got pelters for it, he's world class and going to be a City Legend they said, I genuinly hoped I was wrong but hey ho !
 
radcliffe1309 said:
Said this from day 1......got pelters for it, he's world class and going to be a City Legend they said, I genuinly hoped I was wrong but hey ho !
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And his peak is probably gone too. He is 30 next year. I can see this being a £100m player leaving on a free transfer in 2 years when his contract runs out.
 
He was targeted by his teammates for diagonal balls. That was the plan to avoid playing though the middle block because Villa had plenty of physical capable midfielders. Funny part was that the tactic was immediately recognized by Villa side cuz that was their game plan when they were in relegation zone seasons ago with most of their midfielders out with injury. And the last supply line was cut in the 2nd half due to Stones injury. We got no outlet. A bit sad to see City comes to this point.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Stuck out in a shit villa side. Never good enough for the very very top, regardless of how he's used. Just a poor signing, didn't excite me at the time and hasn't done since. For £100m, it's just insane.
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I wouldn't say he was a poor signing. He would have been a great signing at £30m or £40m imo.

The £100m fee is a millstone he's been carrying since he arrived.

Villa took Txiki to the cleaners, just like Wolves did with Swales. The £100m fee was even more embarrassing than that we paid for Steve Daley.
 
Lavinda Past said:
I wouldn't say he was a poor signing. He would have been a great signing at £30m or £40m imo.

The £100m fee is a millstone he's been carrying since he arrived.

Villa took Txiki to the cleaners, just like Wolves did with Swales. The £100m fee was even more embarrassing than that we paid for Steve Daley.
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I dont usually mention his fee but really if we paid it for kev, dave or lots more of our legends i would say we underpaid
 
Lavinda Past said:
Have you not noticed that Pep's teams are full of players who don't seem to be allowed to 'play for themselves', due to a very rigid system?

Grealish is no different to Alvarez, Jesus, Cole Palmer etc... shoehorned into a system that limited their ability to play natural game.
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Yet Alvarez, Jesus and even palmer scored and assisted consistently.

Grealish is so slow in thought and lacks any pace to get a yard to make a cross or get his shots away (hence why it’s always blocked). Never rated him at villa and his time at city has been even worse than I could have imagined tbh.
 
DMA's said:
Yet Alvarez, Jesus and even palmer scored and assisted consistently.

Grealish is so slow in thought and lacks any pace to get a yard to make a cross or get his shots away (hence why it’s always blocked). Never rated him at villa and his time at city has been even worse than I could have imagined tbh.
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Don't remember Jesus scoring & assisting consistently for. More like the polar opposite.
 
WorthlessPoster said:
Don't remember Jesus scoring & assisting consistently for. More like the polar opposite.
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Jesus was never amazing in terms of output, but compared to the forward line we have now (bar Haaland) he was basically Ibrahimovic. I was not disappointed when we sold Jesus and I didn't regret selling him even when he was crushing it in his first few weeks at Arsenal - but I would take him back in an absolute heartbeat now. That says a lot. He is a better player than Doku, Savio or Grealish. We sold him because he wasn't good enough to start regularly but almost every other forward we have signed since that day has been much further from 'good enough'.
 
DMA's said:
Yet Alvarez, Jesus and even palmer scored and assisted consistently.

Grealish is so slow in thought and lacks any pace to get a yard to make a cross or get his shots away (hence why it’s always blocked). Never rated him at villa and his time at city has been even worse than I could have imagined tbh.
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The way I remember it, Palmer was abysmally bad for almost all of his last year with us. He only started looking like he was anywhere near good enough in the few weeks before he left. I remember him being embarrassingly far below the required level for all of his last full season.

I will grant you Alvarez and Jesus but I don't blame the board whatsoever for selling Palmer, I thought he was absolutely shocking.
 
MarsLlama said:
Jesus was never amazing in terms of output, but compared to the forward line we have now (bar Haaland) he was basically Ibrahimovic. I was not disappointed when we sold Jesus and I didn't regret selling him even when he was crushing it in his first few weeks at Arsenal - but I would take him back in an absolute heartbeat now. That says a lot. He is a better player than Doku, Savio or Grealish. We sold him because he wasn't good enough to start regularly but almost every other forward we have signed since that day has been much further from 'good enough'.
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We miss raz more than gabby , he did drive some people mad but 130 goals speak for itself
 
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