None of the hundreds of new charges Pinto is fighting relate to City nor did any of his criminal convictions relate to City’s handful of emails. He is irrelevant to City’s case. His lawyer’s whistleblower defence was shattered in the first trial in Lisbon.Mate, you need to let it go. While Pinto is the reason we’re in this position, he’s a fucking clueless **** who thinks our e-mails can only be interpreted one way to suit his own twisted agenda. His lawyer can’t even bring himself accept the decision of the highest sporting arbitration court of the world so I don’t give a fuck about any “fresh” material he may or may not have handed over as I’ve little doubt that it will simply be the same bollocks that CAS laughed out of court. Fuck Pinto and fuck all those who sail in him.
So what do you mean is nonsense?
1. We don’t know what we are accused of or if there is new evidence regarding the 54 charges of Misrepresentation of Financial Information.
2. The major threat to City lies in whether the Premier League has new evidence that they have either uncovered themselves or obtained from FootyLeaks/Pinto/EIC.
3. Pinto claims that there is more material and that data has been shared with authorities.
No, I do understand how the disclosure process works, but I’m concerned about what may have come in from the sidelines and helped the Premier League piece things together.You fundamentally misunderstand the way the disclosure process will have worked. The PL will have been entitled to (and received) documents from City and, in some circumstances (say where that party consented or was giving a witness statement) from a third party. To the extent the PL became aware of documents from the hacks (they weren't leaks) the PL would have put City on the spot to produce those documents in original form and cast doubt on City's disclosure process where such documents had not been previously shared.
But all of this is now irrelevant - the hearing has happened, thousands of documents would have been disclosed and used in that hearing. It is highly unlikely that Pinto has kept the really juicy stuff back or that the EIC didn't have all the data to search anyway. But it is irrelevant anyway because nobody will be listening to any party trying to bring further documents into play post the decision.
I don’t know why but you seem in capable of listening ( I mean reading) or responding to what people say or the signals from the club.Well, if you highlight a problem, some people will question if you’re a Blue. People are on this thread for good news. If you think I’m a bore, a Rag, or both, just hit the ignore button.
I want us to be cleared of all charges—it would mean more to me than winning the league.
I don’t think our owners pose a threat to Pinto’s life, but he also hacked criminal networks, so there’s a reason he’s in witness protection.
Regarding our owners/management, I would be surprised if they hadn’t explored every possible avenue to bypass the cartel’s financial “fair play” regulations.
I’m writing from an outsider’s perspective. City knows all the charges; we don’t, but that doesn’t stop us from speculating.
Has it ever crossed your mind that the 3.4TB of data was all of the football leaks stuff?No, I do understand how the disclosure process works, but I’m concerned about what may have come in from the sidelines and helped the Premier League piece things together.
Of course, I also understand that new documents are irrelevant at this stage, but the last times new documents were mentioned by Pinto or his lawyer were in November 2023, February 2024, and June 2024.
They’ve had three years since CAS to uncover new evidence, and while it’s likely that the EIC got the juiciest stuff the first time around, it can’t be ruled out that there was more. DS/EIC received 3.4 terabytes out of the 17.5 terabytes.
So you think the club held stuff back that it had to disclose for r hearing and Pinto has given new stuff the premier you clearly think that our club stinks with corruption why bother being a fan ?No, I do understand how the disclosure process works, but I’m concerned about what may have come in from the sidelines and helped the Premier League piece things together.
Of course, I also understand that new documents are irrelevant at this stage, but the last times new documents were mentioned by Pinto or his lawyer were in November 2023, February 2024, and June 2024.
They’ve had three years since CAS to uncover new evidence, and while it’s likely that the EIC got the juiciest stuff the first time around, it can’t be ruled out that there was more. DS/EIC received 3.4 terabytes out of the 17.5 terabytes.
Of course, but it cannot be ruled out that there are documents related to City among the 14TB that didn’t go to DS, especially since both the hacker and his lawyer claim that this is the case.Has it ever crossed your mind that the 3.4TB of data was all of the football leaks stuff?
Guessing you’re well aware that he’s not just hacked football clubs, so why are you so convinced that in the remaining data, there’s more information on City?
From memory, DS had a few million City emails, so I’m not sure why you’re so concerned?
The data will be related to the new charges Pinto faces which seem to be about Benfica and PSG mostly. The City emails Der Spiegl had were always a tiny fraction of the material hacked. There is zero evidence that any of it is relevant to City. Pinto is a convicted fraudster serving a suspended jail sentence. Now he faces a bigger jail term. His lawyer is desperate.Has it ever crossed your mind that the 3.4TB of data was all of the football leaks stuff?
Guessing you’re well aware that he’s not just hacked football clubs, so why are you so convinced that in the remaining data, there’s more information on City?
From memory, DS had a few million City emails, so I’m not sure why you’re so concerned?
If CAS got the juiciest stuff anything new won’t matterNo, I do understand how the disclosure process works, but I’m concerned about what may have come in from the sidelines and helped the Premier League piece things together.
Of course, I also understand that new documents are irrelevant at this stage, but the last times new documents were mentioned by Pinto or his lawyer were in November 2023, February 2024, and June 2024.
They’ve had three years since CAS to uncover new evidence, and while it’s likely that the EIC got the juiciest stuff the first time around, it can’t be ruled out that there was more. DS/EIC received 3.4 terabytes out of the 17.5 terabytes.
If CAS got the juiciest stuff anything new won’t matter
if my aunt .....etcIf the Premier League has new evidence proving that our witnesses lied at CAS, we’re in deep water.
Kin hell mate do you work for the pl ?
Do you remember that the pl couldn't even get the charge sheet against City correct !
You seem to believe a convicted criminal over our owners.
You seem to think our owners, sponsors, investors, accountants have committed mass fraud for over a decade. Risking prison sentences, risking the companies, for what ? A football club ?
This is why the PL will fail. Their solicitors have clearly fucked up and haven't realised the rules back in the day were different to the ones around today. Fordham - nothing wrong at the time, Mancini - nothing wrong at the time, Etihad and any sponsorship deal - CAS trumps any IC verdict. So what does that leave them with?
Kin hell mate do you work for the pl ?
Do you remember that the pl couldn't even get the charge sheet against City correct !
You seem to believe a convicted criminal over our owners.
You seem to think our owners, sponsors, investors, accountants have committed mass fraud for over a decade. Risking prison sentences, risking the companies, for what ? A football club ?
Exactly-so why did Pep sign for 2 years-did the players know but not Pep. Really.I chatted with a Liverpool fan today. He said that he had been chatting to a Manchester United fan, who claimed that City's players already know that the club has been found guilty and that is the reason for the poor form. He asked me if I'd heard that. I told him that it was complete and utter bollocks. When Liverpool and United fans have a discussion, shite spreads.
The Keith moon guy just never gives up with his (all “in his opinion” ) negativity. He seems determined to keep his theme in the spotlight & won’t acknowledge it’s all his supposition without any backup. It’s all “there might be” new evidence. But he won’t accept that the hacks weren’t aimed at City - we were a small part of the big picture.I don’t think people should be too harsh on @Keith Moon. It’s very easy to get drawn in and think the worst with all the bullshit from the media and public who just want City found guilty. It can also be comforting/a relief to just give in and stop fighting. It’s part of many people’s make up. I don’t agree with him for a minute but the amount of blue on blue infighting on here recently is a hard to take - both on this thread and the playing threads. That’s the real defeat here for me. City fans used to be known for their humour and camaraderie but now we just sound like over aggressive, entitled twats. For what it’s worth it sounds more and more obvious that we’ll get done for non cooperation, get a fine and everyone will be happy. We can move on and everyone else can continue to call us cheats
Wonder what the cause of their shit season is?? Are they going to fail FFP etc & know they’re going to get points deduction. :-)I chatted with a Liverpool fan today. He said that he had been chatting to a Manchester United fan, who claimed that City's players already know that the club has been found guilty and that is the reason for the poor form. He asked me if I'd heard that. I told him that it was complete and utter bollocks. When Liverpool and United fans have a discussion, shite spreads.