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[levets]

No,he's not good enough and not even close to Palmer

The poster said when they were both in the EDS…

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

If I was an agent i would not advise my player to join City in January, team has imploded, Pep might resign, club may be relegated. So top targets will be hard to get.

Luckily you are not an agent, you are a full time ****. Maybe you could job share?

 

[Silva2021]

We had this discussion yesterday. You basically said the same thing then and I told you why I disagreed. Not sure why you are suddenly a day later quoting one of the earliest posts in the discussion, saying the excact same thing without elaborating at all.

It isn't a good deal when it became abruptly clear that we would have needed the player he became as soon as he got given a chance, rather than the fee. You saying over and over again that De Bruyne didn't cut the mustard at Chelsea doesn't make it true. They had a great player and they sold him. They made a mistake. Both De Bruyne and Palmer went on to become two of the best players in the league straight off the bench. No development time at all, not a year after the move. Straight away.

I understand that it could be seen as a good deal, or a good move at the time. But this is the highest level of a multi-billionaire industry. Decisions will be judged on their ramifications long after the fact. Cole Palmer was a major mistake by us. KdB and Salah were major mistakes by Chelsea.

Absolutely, spot on and it’s just the my club bias.

If it was United (and I know it would have been far easier to get in their team), but we would laugh at them if they sell a player who ends up being one of the best in the prem.

That said there are positives and he is the best marketing for buy from the City Academy you can get.

It’s also not the clubs fault that PSR encourages selling youth players (this is a by product and is very wrong IMO).

So suck it up, we made a mistake but bar Chelsea we are the next best club to have benefitted from Cole Palmer and we have benefitted.

Not like United and Pogba.

 

[chiswick blue]

Absolutely, spot on and it’s just the my club bias.

If it was United (and I know it would have been far easier to get in their team), but we would laugh at them if they sell a player who ends up being one of the best in the prem.

That said there are positives and he is the best marketing for buy from the City Academy you can get.

It’s also not the clubs fault that PSR encourages selling youth players (this is a by product and is very wrong IMO).

So suck it up, we made a mistake but bar Chelsea we are the next best club to have benefitted from Cole Palmer and we have benefitted.

Not like United and Pogba.

I cannot remember too many fans complaining at the time when we banked £45M and still had Foden, Silva, Bobb, Alverez that could play on the right. Yes in hindsight it would have been good to keep him but we weren’t to know Silva and Foden would be having such a poor season. He’s a very good player that got away, I can only think of him and Sane in recent years of the players that left that I’d rather we kept

 

[ScottSinclair]

I cannot remember too many fans complaining at the time when we banked £45M and still had Foden, Silva, Bobb, Alverez that could play on the right. Yes in hindsight it would have been good to keep him but we weren’t to know Silva and Foden would be having such a poor season. He’s a very good player that got away, I can only think of him and Sane in recent years of the players that left that I’d rather we kept

Fans doesn't make the decisions. The club do.

Not sure too many were complaining when we sold Alvarez either. But that is also looking like a mistake considering we absurdly enough didn't replace him. Maybe if we kept the best number 10 in the league currently instead of selling him we would not have to replace Alvarez. But we did both. Do you see where I am going with this?

 

[Keeper!]

If I was an agent i would not advise my player to join City in January, team has imploded, Pep might resign, club may be relegated. So top targets will be hard to get.

You have the most appropriate username on this board, your a raving lunatic.

 

[Eric Hitchmough]

If I was an agent i would not advise my player to join City in January, team has imploded, Pep might resign, club may be relegated. So top targets will be hard to get.

Which football team do you support?

 

[Mcfcok1971]

The poster said when they were both in the EDS…

It's irrelevant really, one has progressed, the other hasn't. Should sell as he'll never make our first team,he's nowhere good enough

 

[Keith Moon]

Which football team do you support?

Manchester City, why are you asking?

 

[Eric Hitchmough]

Manchester City, why are you asking?

Because your messages in various threads over recent days in particular made me curious about your allegiance.

I’ve got no problem at all with sensible fans of other teams coming on here - there are some really good contributors - but if they’re a WUM or consistently negative in an over the top way, it usually unravels.

 

[Fordyboy46]

January 1st, I demand a player signs!

 

[richards30]

Have we been completely turned down by Zubimendi yet? If he fancied it and we could sign him that’s an instant problem sorted isn’t it?

 

[Haaland94]

Have we been completely turned down by Zubimendi yet? If he fancied it and we could sign him that’s an instant problem sorted isn’t it?

There are still rumours out there suggesting we could be in for him and he might consider a move...

 

[vincent]

Have we been completely turned down by Zubimendi yet? If he fancied it and we could sign him that’s an instant problem sorted isn’t it?

Doubt it if Jack and Sam Lee have reported we are not in for him (in January).

 

[richards30]

Doubt it if Jack and Sam Lee have reported we are not in for him (in January).

A few more reports saying we are looking to trigger his clause now though as well?

 

[bell_mcfc]

Have we been completely turned down by Zubimendi yet? If he fancied it and we could sign him that’s an instant problem sorted isn’t it?

Money talks. And reassurances I’m sure will be given if we speak to the players agents.

Have to remember that all leaks have stopped since Berrada left so the fact people are reporting we aren’t in for Bruno and Zubi are educated guesses I’d say. You could argue this is our most important transfer window ever as we need to mark down the fact we aren’t done, we aren’t giving up.

 

[Haaland94]

Money talks. And reassurances I’m sure will be given if we speak to the players agents.

Have to remember that all leaks have stopped since Berrada left so the fact people are reporting we aren’t in for Bruno and Zubi are educated guesses I’d say. You could argue this is our most important transfer window ever as we need to mark down the fact we aren’t done, we aren’t giving up.

I think that's how the majority of us sees it. I wonder if our management sees it the same way, though. I really hope they do...

 

[bell_mcfc]

I think that's how the majority of us sees it. I wonder if our management sees it the same way, though. I really hope they do...

I guess the worse we do the more obvious and pressing it becomes.

That’s one thing in taking from this season as a positive. If we finished 2nd this year and not that far of a gap we’d say it’s an off year, fatigue etc. We then might run it back.

This year has been so bad we have to rebuild and that the best thing for this club long term. And we have Pep to do it again.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Fucking hell we might aswell all end it

When does the sky walk open?

 

[Manchester33]

I understand that it could be seen as a good deal, or a good move at the time. But this is the highest level of a multi-billionaire industry. Decisions will be judged on their ramifications long after the fact. Cole Palmer was a major mistake by us.

I agree and disagree. It would be great to have Cole Palmer playing for us right now, but we have the benefit of hindsight.

At the time, no one questioned City for accepting a £40m+ transfer for a player who'd made 19 appearances (and, most importantly, who wanted to leave). The transfer worked out fine for all three parties.

There are tons of 'what if' players we let go. It's the nature of our new model (build the best academy in the world and sell young players to fund first-team transfers). We can't make room for all of them; some will inevitably become exceptional players for other clubs.

I would say that Cole Palmer WAS NOT a MAJOR mistake by us. The reinvestment of the money we received for Cole was the major mistake.