82 | Rico Lewis - 2024/25

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There is no comparison. Foden is having a tough time of it but we all know that the current POTS is top-class. He has proven it. Rico has proven nothing.
Proven nothing? Do you have to win POTS to prove something now?

He’s proven he’s good enough to be in our squad at 20 years old. Something most player could only dream of.

We shouldn’t be expecting youth players to be instantly world class. Some of our own senior 50/60 m players haven’t even shown that
 
Disappointed but not shocked at some of the comments on here about Rico. He’s a young lad who should be playing 20-25 games a season atm with Rodri next to him as he inverts from rb and Dias/Stones next to him in defence. He should have DeBruyne, Foden, Grealish,Haaland creating space and havoc in front of him. Instead he’s being asked to play every game, in multiple positions with superstars around him that are out of form and shot to pieces confidence wise. And ‘fans’ on here are slating the kid And blaming him for the run we’ve been on. Sorry you know fuck all about football.
 
Wow, your lack of self awareness is astounding.
Read your first sentence out aloud and then repeat it. You are talking about a professional athlete not a Sunday league level player.
Have you ever actually played the game? Genuine question?
Because from your assessment and repeated statements you come across as someone that has played FIFA or Football Manager but never stepped over the white line yourself.
I’m not entertaining you any longer.
I want Rico to do well.
He’s playing very poorly in a struggling team and needs to be given a break.
Other players have struggled too.
Foden is one of them but that doesn’t excuse Rico for his poor positioning, weakness in protecting the ball, poor passing, lightweight tackling and slow reactions and response to dangerous attacks.
Thanks for the two positive contributions he made today. Without your tactical nouse I’m sure they would have been missed.
Sigh.

Who do you suggest plays in his place?
 
Disappointed but not shocked at some of the comments on here about Rico. He’s a young lad who should be playing 20-25 games a season atm with Rodri next to him as he inverts from rb and Dias/Stones next to him in defence. He should have DeBruyne, Foden, Grealish,Haaland creating space and havoc in front of him. Instead he’s being asked to play every game, in multiple positions with superstars around him that are out of form and shot to pieces confidence wise. And ‘fans’ on here are slating the kid And blaming him for the run we’ve been on. Sorry you know fuck all about football.
Spot on
 
Who do you suggest plays in his place?
It’s likely that we will need to bring someone in that can play the game the way Pep likes to play, so someone adept at right back and/or right midfielder. Jeremie Frimpong has been mentioned, he fits the profile age wise and would provide the necessary cover so that Rico can be rested and rediscover his form. Hakimi and Dumfries could also do the role but I would expect them to be significantly more expensive.
Let’s see what Txiki does over the next few weeks.
 
It’s likely that we will need to bring someone in that can play the game the way Pep likes to play, so someone adept at right back and/or right midfielder. Jeremie Frimpong has been mentioned, he fits the profile age wise and would provide the necessary cover so that Rico can be rested and rediscover his form. Hakimi and Dumfries could also do the role but I would expect them to be significantly more expensive.
Let’s see what Txiki does over the next few weeks.

I think the rest is all that’s needed. Him & Gvardiol have played in patched up teams often 2 positions a game whilst taking the brunt of the flack. He’s a quality player but shouldn’t have been expected to play the amount of games this season. I was concerned with the amount of crosses they failed to stop yesterday but I think it’s more to do with fatigue.
 
It’s likely that we will need to bring someone in that can play the game the way Pep likes to play, so someone adept at right back and/or right midfielder. Jeremie Frimpong has been mentioned, he fits the profile age wise and would provide the necessary cover so that Rico can be rested and rediscover his form. Hakimi and Dumfries could also do the role but I would expect them to be significantly more expensive.
Let’s see what Txiki does over the next few weeks.
Or Kimmich
 
Get off his back you mugs , he’s a blue trying like fck
It’s really horrible reading some of the comments on here about an academy product who is trusted by the greatest manager.
It’s as if these fans are more intelligent than the manager.
Two seasons ago, it was Grealish; last season, it was Walker and now, it’s Rico.
 
No
rodri struggled in his first half year however if you remember but the player was always there..

Rico - no one can even say definitively what his best position is....and thats an issue to start with as it means he aint good enough in either to actually say he is one or the other....

I remember some posters saying Rodri couldn't turn in the channel, others wanting to "bin him".
Maybe I will be quoting you again in a few years regards Lewis.
 
I remember some posters saying Rodri couldn't turn in the channel, others wanting to "bin him".
Maybe I will be quoting you again in a few years regards Lewis.
Hopefully you will.
I will gladly be proved wrong but at the moment he is part of the bigger problem...its not down to effort on his part that much is obvious. But he aint a ball carrying midfielder, he aint strong enough to be the number 6 (press resistent he is o but physically going into challenges he is weak - there is no hiding from this). once the play is past him he cannt get back...I watched him struggle week in week out in this element.
he is great in small spaces but one out of them he isnt creative at present, has limited goal threat (he gets in positions Ill give him that) but often he also gets in the way.
one big problem is he is too easily turned midfield.....He needs to learn the dark arts thats for sure - ths is where we are seeing oppostiion players get a free run at our centre havles...

positionally he is obviously doing what he is told but often he seems way off defensively and gives the wide forward way to much space.

As a fullback he is too slow when players go outside him....he also doesnt close down quick enough (though that seems to be a problem right the way through the team at present as Gvardiol is also very guilty of this along with others).

his passing is good and movement off the ball into space is decent (bit slow at times but thats the whole team again at present and I dont think that is necessarily down to him).

His awareness on crosses aint great..the goal vs Everton is one example..he should be expecting that to come to him, I know Akanji also misses it but he should be ready and he is nowhere near the guy that puts it in eventually. (Kyle walker is historcally bad at this for both us and England).
 
I thought he was more than decent yesterday, he still has a lot to learn and don’t think he’s a natural defender.

Like a few others have said I think his ideal role at the moment is as a squad utility man, can cover multiple positions. Put him in a strong and confident team and he will fit like a glove.

Put him in a team that’s struggling and lacking physicality, and he will likely struggle too.

Give him another year or two of physical development and he will maybe push himself up the pecking order.
 
Hopefully you will.
I will gladly be proved wrong but at the moment he is part of the bigger problem...its not down to effort on his part that much is obvious. But he aint a ball carrying midfielder, he aint strong enough to be the number 6 (press resistent he is o but physically going into challenges he is weak - there is no hiding from this). once the play is past him he cannt get back...I watched him struggle week in week out in this element.
he is great in small spaces but one out of them he isnt creative at present, has limited goal threat (he gets in positions Ill give him that) but often he also gets in the way.
one big problem is he is too easily turned midfield.....He needs to learn the dark arts thats for sure - ths is where we are seeing oppostiion players get a free run at our centre havles...

positionally he is obviously doing what he is told but often he seems way off defensively and gives the wide forward way to much space.

As a fullback he is too slow when players go outside him....he also doesnt close down quick enough (though that seems to be a problem right the way through the team at present as Gvardiol is also very guilty of this along with others).

his passing is good and movement off the ball into space is decent (bit slow at times but thats the whole team again at present and I dont think that is necessarily down to him).

His awareness on crosses aint great..the goal vs Everton is one example..he should be expecting that to come to him, I know Akanji also misses it but he should be ready and he is nowhere near the guy that puts it in eventually. (Kyle walker is historcally bad at this for both us and England).

Most of your post has merit. He is not the finished article.
He has struggled in some games and he probably would have played much less minutes if the squad was not so depleted.
But to put the failings of the team this season on him, and to write him off is not right.
The injuries throughout the squad, the levels of fitness, players having to play while injured, Our leaders, De bruyne, Dias, Walker, Rodri, Foden, for one reason or another not being able to contribute regularly or at the level desired , and most importantly confidence levels are the major reasons we are struggling.

Lewis has many attributes, some you acknowledged, not the least that he is one who continues to look like he is playing to a maximum effort, whatever his performance, for whatever reason other players do not. He may not be the player to turn our fortunes around single handed, but he is far from the cause of them.

My main point to you was that you write players off very quickly, only to be proved wrong,our 4 in a row are an indication of that.
Professional footballers who Play for Pep do not get to do so by chance.
I believe a couple of signings, fitness, and the option of rotation will soon bring about a change in fortune, and Lewis will be an important part of that,pp as Rodri and others have been in the recent past.
 
Most of your post has merit. He is not the finished article.
He has struggled in some games and he probably would have played much less minutes if the squad was not so depleted.
But to put the failings of the team this season on him, and to write him off is not right.
The injuries throughout the squad, the levels of fitness, players having to play while injured, Our leaders, De bruyne, Dias, Walker, Rodri, Foden, for one reason or another not being able to contribute regularly or at the level desired , and most importantly confidence levels are the major reasons we are struggling.

Lewis has many attributes, some you acknowledged, not the least that he is one who continues to look like he is playing to a maximum effort, whatever his performance, for whatever reason other players do not. He may not be the player to turn our fortunes around single handed, but he is far from the cause of them.

My main point to you was that you write players off very quickly, only to be proved wrong,our 4 in a row are an indication of that.
Professional footballers who Play for Pep do not get to do so by chance.
I believe a couple of signings, fitness, and the option of rotation will soon bring about a change in fortune, and Lewis will be an important part of that,pp as Rodri and others have been in the recent past.
Im not putting the failings of the team on him....i said he is part of the bigger problem.

You are correct about the other players

But Lewis aint ever going to contribute to the same level as the likes of Rodri - lets not get this twisted here.....he aint ever going to that level whether he proves he can play for this team or not...
 
Im not putting the failings of the team on him....i said he is part of the bigger problem.

You are correct about the other players

But Lewis aint ever going to contribute to the same level as the likes of Rodri - lets not get this twisted here.....he aint ever going to that level whether he proves he can play for this team or not...
Not sure who you think may contribute to the same level as Rodri? We have far bigger problems than Lewis, wherever he plays....buying two wingers, who make Sterling at his worst, look like prime Messi is one of them. Having a midfield with as much pace as me is another.
 
Not sure who you think may contribute to the same level as Rodri? We have far bigger problems than Lewis, wherever he plays....buying two wingers, who make Sterling at his worst, look like prime Messi is one of them. Having a midfield with as much pace as me is another.
Agree on the midfielders...and often Lewis I'd one of those left trailing and not able to recover as he hsd been taken on/ turned/ out muscled/ beaten in the middle of yhe park .....he ain good enought as a midfielder ...and as a fullback he is OK...but we will need better
 
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