PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Herbert won’t have any inside track on what’s going on and has demonstrated his lack of understanding and impartiality on the subject. I wouldn’t bother giving it a click, it’s the equivalent of a client journalist for the post office writing an article that he hopes all accused post masters should just accept their charges and not fight them.
 
That's actually quite interesting, although I doubt Herbert will understand why.

Clearly some of it is just simple journalistic and uninformed nonsense but, assuming he actually did hear that the panel looked at the mind-boggling complexity of the AD sponsorships (which isn't news, btw, as it was already exposed in the APT case, for Etihad at least) and if his source is using that as an indication that City may have been using complex contracts to get around FFP (rather than, say, oh I don't know, the much more serious allegation that Mansour paid the sponsorship himself) then that may be an indication that the PL's allegations over funding sponsorships failed, and their attention was instead drawn to the related party nature of the deals and their fair value as we discussed a while ago.

That is an important shift in tone imho from very serious legal fraud issues to less serious and more esoteric accounting issues and is a good one for people looking for "signs".

Of course, it may be that I, Herbert or both are all talking just plain bollocks, but I reckon this may be the first indication that the PL actually struggled with its more serious allegations as we always thought they would.
Would we not be in a good position over related party I mean there is an accepted definition in accounting terms. We have no related party deals in the accounts right ?

If new evidence comes to light about the sponsorships that makes people think they are related would that be considered false accounting and also would any of this be bad faith etc

Not sure when it started to diverge for FFP and if that’s covered in the charges
 
Herbert won’t have any inside track on what’s going on and has demonstrated his lack of understanding and impartiality on the subject. I wouldn’t bother giving it a click, it’s the equivalent of a client journalist for the post office writing an article that he hopes all accused post masters should just accept their charges and not fight them.
The narrative of our enemies has changed from “City and their Arab owners are cheats who must be relegated” to “ Their finances are too complex to understand. They must have something to hide.” Smells like good news to me.
 
now that really is a genuine soap opera :)
I know we joke about this with the rags but it really pisses me of that rags are given a free pass, like being 75m over ffp but let off.
I fail to see how any action against any club is legal while the rags are allowed to get away with breaking the rules
 
I know we joke about this with the rags but it really pisses me of that rags are given a free pass, like being 75m over ffp but let off.
I fail to see how any action against any club is legal while the rags are allowed to get away with breaking the rules

It's like when someone says "Well we all sign up for the rules" it just isn't true because as you point out they bend the rules.

Like the money the vermin were putting away for a new ground to avoid FFP and a ground wasn't even built EVEN NOW.
 
talking of false accounting do the pl have access to the rags Carmen Island accounts ? If not why not ? seems unfair to me that City cant use this witch hunt as others clubs arent being investigated like City
I don’t think even chemical Jim saw them until after he parted with a billion quid. Which is why he is now realising he has to sack everyone and beg Elon Musk to give him money to sort the swamp out. Money earned they told us, when is the last time they earned a profit and upped their cash reserves? Everything they do is on tick.
 
I know we joke about this with the rags but it really pisses me of that rags are given a free pass, like being 75m over ffp but let off.
I fail to see how any action against any club is legal while the rags are allowed to get away with breaking the rules

That's why the PL really can't be allowed to continue to oversee the running of things when the favoured teams get such favourable treatment, whilst others are hounded and vilified.
 
I'm sorry, but I'm going to come out in support of Herbert. He has given this thread a timely boost which was needed by implying a new type of guilt. His barefaced baiting of us is organised and clear!

There is nothing of worth in any of his re hashed articles and I only know about them from posters on here.
 
talking of false accounting do the pl have access to the rags Carmen Island accounts ? If not why not ? seems unfair to me that City cant use this witch hunt as others clubs arent being investigated like City
They are published quarterly on the NYSE and are very detailed. Not sure you’ll get much mileage on this one!
 
I know we joke about this with the rags but it really pisses me of that rags are given a free pass, like being 75m over ffp but let off.
I fail to see how any action against any club is legal while the rags are allowed to get away with breaking the rules

It’s like the ICC being told they should be investigating African countries not the good old USA.
 
That's why the PL really can't be allowed to continue to oversee the running of things when the favoured teams get such favourable treatment, whilst others are hounded and vilified.
So the question why do the clubs that get screwed over do nothing ? Theres only 4 clubs that stand up to the pl. I would guess the others are breaking the rules somewhere along the way so support the cartel for their own protection.

I cant see why the IC cant say until all clubs are investigated to Citys level the case is null n void !!
 
They are published quarterly on the NYSE and are very detailed. Not sure you’ll get much mileage on this one!
just because they are published doesnt mean their isnt anything dodge ! Arent Citys account published ? City are accused of fraud
 
So the question why do the clubs that get screwed over do nothing ? Theres only 4 clubs that stand up to the pl. I would guess the others are breaking the rules somewhere along the way so support the cartel for their own protection.

I cant see why the IC cant say until all clubs are investigated to Citys level the case is null n void !!

The problem lies with the board they don't take account the feelings of fans who feel they have been slighted.

When you have a raft of American owners taking money out of the game they want to keep it going, the smaller businessmen subservient to their larger more powerful business adversaries.

As long as they are making money too it doesn't matter if the team is slated, loses, wins or gets relegated, the bottom line is profit.
 
ORGAN115ED AND CLEAR.

The "115" announcement, designed for impact and severity.

As some have aluded to, the whole process is our "punishment" for upsetting the applecart.

Publicly dragging our name through the mud at every opportunity via paid media shills.

Firing up opposing fans with cries of cheats, and twisting the truth around the case.

I have trust in the knowledge and opinions of the resident legal experts on here.

If all the pl have is non cooperation they will try to inflate the punishment for it.

If cleared of the financial, procedural and accountancy accusations we should push back against non cooperation.

We, and City will still be here when the pl is no more, so fck em.

Happy new year everyone.
 
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