Flooding in Stockport

My parents were badly affected, water got into the house and affected the electrics too. They were trapped inside and had no heating until late last night, by which time temperatures had started to dip below zero. My mum's disabled and not one of the helplines they called offered them so much as a bottle of water or a blanket.

They have issues every few months now, but this one was much worse. Living in that house growing up I don't remember a single issue. They firmly blame the rapid urbanisation of the area, with Stockport council apparently hell bent on wiping out any green belt land to approve new homes, as well as the frankly criminal planning of the airport relief road.

The worrying thing is that a developer is pushing to build hundreds if not thousands of new houses on the few remaining fields less than half a mile from them, really cramming them in there. Apparently the latest housing development was completely cut off and badly flooded, half million pound homes finished just last year and they're now realizing they are all at huge flood risk, wonder if the buyers were told that at the time of purchase. Wonder if they even conducted an assessment. Wonder who they paid off.

I know they've also complained to the council and united utilities about blocked drains several times, and been batted from one to the other one whose responsibility it is, ultimately to be told they're supposed to be done on an 18 month rolling basis but there is no money for it currently, that the drains are too old and need replacing to cope, and there is no budget to do that. Yet still they build. Greedy bastards.

At the same time as being asked to pay an additional £59 by the council to have their garden waste collections continue, because apparently that's not included in council tax anymore. The mismanagement in most of our local councils seems absolutely staggering to be honest.
 
bluetonium said:
My parents were badly affected, water got into the house and affected the electrics too. They were trapped inside and had no heating until late last night, by which time temperatures had started to dip below zero. My mum's disabled and not one of the helplines they called offered them so much as a bottle of water or a blanket.

They have issues every few months now, but this one was much worse. Living in that house growing up I don't remember a single issue. They firmly blame the rapid urbanisation of the area, with Stockport council apparently hell bent on wiping out any green belt land to approve new homes, as well as the frankly criminal planning of the airport relief road.

The worrying thing is that a developer is pushing to build hundreds if not thousands of new houses on the few remaining fields less than half a mile from them, really cramming them in there. Apparently the latest housing development was completely cut off and badly flooded, half million pound homes finished just last year and they're now realizing they are all at huge flood risk, wonder if the buyers were told that at the time of purchase. Wonder if they even conducted an assessment. Wonder who they paid off.

I know they've also complained to the council and united utilities about blocked drains several times, and been batted from one to the other one whose responsibility it is, ultimately to be told they're supposed to be done on an 18 month rolling basis but there is no money for it currently, that the drains are too old and need replacing to cope, and there is no budget to do that. Yet still they build. Greedy bastards.

At the same time as being asked to pay an additional £59 by the council to have their garden waste collections continue, because apparently that's not included in council tax anymore. The mismanagement in most of our local councils seems absolutely staggering to be honest.
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Saddened to hear that about your parents, hope they are ok? What part of Stockport is it and which river is nearest to them? (assume either the Goyt, Tame or Mersey?)
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Saddened to hear that about your parents, hope they are ok? What part of Stockport is it and which river is nearest to them? (assume either the Goyt, Tame or Mersey?)
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Cheers, off to see them this morning as I believe the road is passable now, just hope they've kept warm overnight with these freezing temperatures. They're in Heald Green, not particularly close to any rivers. The bolin is two or three miles to the south, the mersey the same or further northwards. They did have some fields close by which used to act as flood plains, but as I say they're now being built on and I guess this is the result.

I do wonder if this housing plan they have across Greater Manchester, which I believe Stockport is not actually a part of and has had to find their own solutions, will have to be put on hold as there is a risk that rushing development as they have is actually affecting the quality of life of current residents, if not downright endangering life.
 
bluetonium said:
Cheers, off to see them this morning as I believe the road is passable now, just hope they've kept warm overnight with these freezing temperatures. They're in Heald Green, not particularly close to any rivers. The bolin is two or three miles to the south, the mersey the same or further northwards. They did have some fields close by which used to act as flood plains, but as I say they're now being built on and I guess this is the result.

I do wonder if this housing plan they have across Greater Manchester, which I believe Stockport is not actually a part of and has had to find their own solutions, will have to be put on hold as there is a risk that rushing development as they have is actually affecting the quality of life of current residents, if not downright endangering life.
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Wow strange that the flooding is there yet so far from a main water course.
Watching this on BBC North West news and seeing the airport area roads were flooded I guessed that would be from the Bollin but yes Heald Green should not be affected by either the Mersey or the Bollin so where is it coming from?
As you mentioned, just simply building on green land doesn't leave anywhere for excess water to run away naturally.
 
bluetonium said:
My parents were badly affected, water got into the house and affected the electrics too. They were trapped inside and had no heating until late last night, by which time temperatures had started to dip below zero. My mum's disabled and not one of the helplines they called offered them so much as a bottle of water or a blanket.

They have issues every few months now, but this one was much worse. Living in that house growing up I don't remember a single issue. They firmly blame the rapid urbanisation of the area, with Stockport council apparently hell bent on wiping out any green belt land to approve new homes, as well as the frankly criminal planning of the airport relief road.

The worrying thing is that a developer is pushing to build hundreds if not thousands of new houses on the few remaining fields less than half a mile from them, really cramming them in there. Apparently the latest housing development was completely cut off and badly flooded, half million pound homes finished just last year and they're now realizing they are all at huge flood risk, wonder if the buyers were told that at the time of purchase. Wonder if they even conducted an assessment. Wonder who they paid off.

I know they've also complained to the council and united utilities about blocked drains several times, and been batted from one to the other one whose responsibility it is, ultimately to be told they're supposed to be done on an 18 month rolling basis but there is no money for it currently, that the drains are too old and need replacing to cope, and there is no budget to do that. Yet still they build. Greedy bastards.

At the same time as being asked to pay an additional £59 by the council to have their garden waste collections continue, because apparently that's not included in council tax anymore. The mismanagement in most of our local councils seems absolutely staggering to be honest.
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Disgraceful state of affairs.

When Trafford Council tried to charge us for garden waste a few years back my local councillor told me to put it in the general waste bin like he did. They are supposed to be trying it on again, I will not be paying it.
 
bluetonium said:
Cheers, off to see them this morning as I believe the road is passable now, just hope they've kept warm overnight with these freezing temperatures. They're in Heald Green, not particularly close to any rivers. The bolin is two or three miles to the south, the mersey the same or further northwards. They did have some fields close by which used to act as flood plains, but as I say they're now being built on and I guess this is the result.

I do wonder if this housing plan they have across Greater Manchester, which I believe Stockport is not actually a part of and has had to find their own solutions, will have to be put on hold as there is a risk that rushing development as they have is actually affecting the quality of life of current residents, if not downright endangering life.
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Local authorities have been far too quick to approve housing on flood plains. Why? They see income from rates and an increase in economic activity and also planning gain.
 
It's easy and understandable why councils get the blame for not clearing the gutters and drains.
But they simply isn't the money or manpower to do it.
We had one road here where the council were picking up leaves. 6 blokes 3 vehicles and 5 days work.
Than you have the problem of composting the leaves under the correct regs.
For a rich country we can't afford to keep our drains free and to save ordinary folks property.
If only tax avoiding people were made to pay tax instead of being heroes to save a poxy football club
 
bluetonium said:
Cheers, off to see them this morning as I believe the road is passable now, just hope they've kept warm overnight with these freezing temperatures. They're in Heald Green, not particularly close to any rivers. The bolin is two or three miles to the south, the mersey the same or further northwards. They did have some fields close by which used to act as flood plains, but as I say they're now being built on and I guess this is the result.

I do wonder if this housing plan they have across Greater Manchester, which I believe Stockport is not actually a part of and has had to find their own solutions, will have to be put on hold as there is a risk that rushing development as they have is actually affecting the quality of life of current residents, if not downright endangering life.
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I think the new build housing estate in heald green has had quite a few issues with flooding. Who’d have thought it - poorly built houses on a flood plain causing flooding...

Infrastructure planning clearly never happened. The local council just want more unaffordable housing on the little green space left in the area. A lot of locals didn’t want it either

The poorly built airport relief road is also having similar effects, but from what I’ve read the company who built it went bust!
 
We have a problem outside our house with the drains overflowing as we are in a slight dip in the road as soon as they overflowing it creates a pool of water which eventually starts to run down the drive of our house and next door gets the worst. They’ve contacted the council but they say it’s United utilities who have to deal with it! Look on their website they say it’s the council, basically the drains are to small for the increased water flow and they need increasing and the drop down lowered. I reckon fuck all will get done, the water runs off from the fields above and guess what they want to build on them, which would only worsen the situation.
 
bluetonium said:
My parents were badly affected, water got into the house and affected the electrics too. They were trapped inside and had no heating until late last night, by which time temperatures had started to dip below zero. My mum's disabled and not one of the helplines they called offered them so much as a bottle of water or a blanket.

They have issues every few months now, but this one was much worse. Living in that house growing up I don't remember a single issue. They firmly blame the rapid urbanisation of the area, with Stockport council apparently hell bent on wiping out any green belt land to approve new homes, as well as the frankly criminal planning of the airport relief road.

The worrying thing is that a developer is pushing to build hundreds if not thousands of new houses on the few remaining fields less than half a mile from them, really cramming them in there. Apparently the latest housing development was completely cut off and badly flooded, half million pound homes finished just last year and they're now realizing they are all at huge flood risk, wonder if the buyers were told that at the time of purchase. Wonder if they even conducted an assessment. Wonder who they paid off.

I know they've also complained to the council and united utilities about blocked drains several times, and been batted from one to the other one whose responsibility it is, ultimately to be told they're supposed to be done on an 18 month rolling basis but there is no money for it currently, that the drains are too old and need replacing to cope, and there is no budget to do that. Yet still they build. Greedy bastards.

At the same time as being asked to pay an additional £59 by the council to have their garden waste collections continue, because apparently that's not included in council tax anymore. The mismanagement in most of our local councils seems absolutely staggering to be honest.
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We have a similar situation. Carrington Moss, at the back of City's old training ground, floods every year, it is home to rare toads etc. I'm sure you can guess where they are going to build houses and a relief road.
 
Shite start to 2025 for 100s of people, I just drove done A6 last week when we had 2 days of fog/mist

Climate is changing and getting warmer and wetter....flooding will become normal and a percentage of people/homes will be the cost as not enough money to put in flood defences.....this is happening all across the world and I was trapped in Austria this year due to flooding and had to claim insurance for first time in 30 years travelling.

Feel really sorry for those impacted but flooding will happen again and again and in areas who think they are safe....
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
Looks like it has possibly failed where the River Bollin runs in a culvert beneath the canal. That will cost a serious amount of money and time to fix.
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The canal is on an embankment at that point and they have always had problems with that stretch. Hope they got the temporary stop planks in at the bridges either side of the breach in good time.
 
Blue Maverick said:
We have a problem outside our house with the drains overflowing as we are in a slight dip in the road as soon as they overflowing it creates a pool of water which eventually starts to run down the drive of our house and next door gets the worst. They’ve contacted the council but they say it’s United utilities who have to deal with it! Look on their website they say it’s the council, basically the drains are to small for the increased water flow and they need increasing and the drop down lowered. I reckon fuck all will get done, the water runs off from the fields above and guess what they want to build on them, which would only worsen the situation.
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Road gulleys are the responsibility of your council.
 
KS55 said:
Local authorities have been far too quick to approve housing on flood plains. Why? They see income from rates and an increase in economic activity and also planning gain.
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Spot on. It’s happening everywhere. The gvmt has increased the housing build targets for Councils. East Cheshire recently increased by 159% overnight. I drove through Congleton for the first time in ages over Christmas and it’s like toytown approaching the M6 with fields and fields of new build. Notwithstanding the pressure on services like doctors, dentists etc. I don’t understand where new customers come from as they are certainly not modest ‘affordable’ units whatever that is supposed to mean these days?
 
Approving any houses in flood plains should told they have to be built 6/8 foot of ground level.. have underneath for car parking!

Once your house gets flooded it causes months of stress money work to put right!
 
MikeF said:
Road gulleys are the responsibility of your council.
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Woman on my street, her garden was completely flooded due to a blocked road gulley. UU came out and unblocked them not the council, she was passed from pillar to post before it happened like, and she fell over in it and smashed all her face in bless her.
 
bluetonium said:
Cheers, off to see them this morning as I believe the road is passable now, just hope they've kept warm overnight with these freezing temperatures. They're in Heald Green, not particularly close to any rivers. The bolin is two or three miles to the south, the mersey the same or further northwards. They did have some fields close by which used to act as flood plains, but as I say they're now being built on and I guess this is the result.

I do wonder if this housing plan they have across Greater Manchester, which I believe Stockport is not actually a part of and has had to find their own solutions, will have to be put on hold as there is a risk that rushing development as they have is actually affecting the quality of life of current residents, if not downright endangering life.
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i live in Heald green, dry as a bone round my way, what part of Heald green


edit ( Queensway south )? going down towards galley
 
Manchester33 said:
The Tories spent 13 years decreasing the real-terms funding for councils. This is the effect.
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Flooding has always happened, OK funding can and does help in some cases but it wont stop it. You can't just say "I blame the Tories" that's ridiculous mate.

Here are a few photos of sunny Stockport in monsoon season from yesteryear.

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