Middle East Conflict

The blue phantom said:
Trump will be claiming victory as he seems to have told the Israelis & Hamas to fuckin sign it, Or else. How bad is that on the murdering **** Biden.
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Hamas were ready to sign it months ago it was the Israelis who had to be dragged kicking and screaming ... but yeah another damning indictment on Biden's blood soaked legacy.
 
Postman Pep said:
Hamas were ready to sign it months ago it was the Israelis who had to be dragged kicking and screaming ... but yeah another damning indictment on Biden's blood soaked legacy.
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Without a doubt it's the Israelis who've just wanted to carry on the slaughtering. No interest whatsoever in a ceasefire. It seems they are pissed off that Trump has stated. Get it fuckin signed
 
Vic said:
Further thoughts

Maybe some really thought they could colonise the land and displace people without resistance. Maybe once they realised this was unlikely they could have found some fair way to compensate the dispossessed. Maybe they should have realised that a Jewish state in what had been a Muslim empire for centuries might need more than an iron wall (Jabotinsky) or an iron dome to live in peace (where so many citizens are army reservists). Maybe they should have stuck to the internationally-allotted 1948 borders.
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How did it become a Muslim Empire?


Vic said:
Maybe the foreign powers who fixed those borders should have known better.

Maybe the concept of inviting all Diaspora Jews back to a land they'd not held for two millennia would help them understand why Palestinians might not just disperse to other lands after a few decades.

Maybe if "never again" had been not just about for one people but a model for all peoples.

Maybe it doesn't feel like failure.
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I had assumed that they'd resist any agreement and complete the total extermination of the Palestinian people once Trump took power.
I cannot believe I have just written that last sentence but this is where we are now.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Fuck if it was Biden or Trump, let’s hope that we can get aid in and the fighting is stopped for good.

Seems Blues are more arsed about their own politics rather than those affected on either side of this horrific conflict.
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Well said. Am relieved there’s a temporary stop to the bloodshed, but not sure this is really a cause for celebration or political point scoring.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Fuck if it was Biden or Trump, let’s hope that we can get aid in and the fighting is stopped for good.

Seems Blues are more arsed about their own politics rather than those affected on either side of this horrific conflict.
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Yep. Looking at the faces of the celebrating Palestinians and Israelis, It's the best news they have had for a long while. Hopefully they can build on it.
 
Ric said:
Well said. Am relieved there’s a temporary stop to the bloodshed, but not sure this is really a cause for celebration or political point scoring.
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There’s lots of work to do, hopefully they can take this to the finish.

Still issues on both sides, none more than Netanyahu himself with his own legal issues, as well as Hamas who somehow think they’ve got a win/think they are relevant.
 
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