PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Prophet of Doom said:
Presume the media are all over Chelsea being stripped of trophies won during their cheating era - and telling us that all rival clubs affected by their cheating will be taking legal action to recover money they missed out on ???
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Will there be articles written asking if City should be awarded another Premier League title and a champions league due to Chelsea’s dodgy dealings. I hope we get awarded the second division championship in 88/89 as well.
 
Prophet of Doom said:
Presume the media are all over Chelsea being stripped of trophies won during their cheating era - and telling us that all rival clubs affected by their cheating will be taking legal action to recover money they missed out on ???
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One rule for one rule for another. They, the Premier League, will be telling us that this was all too long ago to be able to anything about it.
 
hammocity said:
You're missing a very relevant point, it's supposed to be about "sustainability" selling off assets in a one off transaction is not sustainable as the Chavs won't be able to do the same thing in the future.

They have virtually asset stripped the club to pass the rules, they have no more loop holes to fall back on, there is no sustainability to their business plan, therefore they should have deemed to have failed.
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Yeah that's true! Chelsea owners believe though that the payers they bought will get them back into champs league make them earn more money get better sponsors! You're right though it's not sustainable because what if they don't get champs league!?
 
cheekybids said:
The lack of our regular number crunchers on this thread atm tells me they are working this out or have more important things to do.
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Tbh, all the discussion the last few days has been a big nothing-burger.

I am sure United have been working with the PL to make sure they were compliant. They would have been close anyway.

As for Chelsea, of course they are negotiating a financial settlement. Doesn't mean they will get one. No point getting upset at Ziegler for just reporting what he is told in the way it has been told to him. A better journalist may have analysed the options and outcomes, but we are where we are with journalism. Rather get angry at the leak, wherever and whyever it came from. It's (again) supposed to be confidential.

Frankly, I don't care about either of those issues. All I am interested in is the club being cleared of the most serious allegations. The rest is a big yawn ......
 
dadnlad said:
If its that Jordan fella he'll add I told you that stefan hasn't got a clue what he's talking about
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Stefan looks at the facts reads the rules what premier put in place! Problem is the premier are little puppies when it comes to certain clubs with American owners they get no backing from other clubs to go after certain clubs but when it us the vast majority of the premier teams are all for screwing us so premier then have backbone
 
Even though at the moment, it's hardly distracting from the main topic, since there have been no new developments or information(despite what the recent headlines might suggest). Perhaps some of the United and Chelsea stuff belongs in the media thread until we know more but I for one find it hard to ignore the double standards. I also find it hard to accept: 'There's probably a reasonable explanation, so no need to be concerned' as a viable outlook personally, given what I've already seen elsewhere.

Considering the constant aggravation, we as City fans have had to put up with in the same situations. For who knows how many years. I definitely wouldn't describe any of the recent developments/rumours and the way it's been handled by the press/tv media by comparison, as nothing. Zero outrage, very little demanding of answers by looks of it and therefore very little pressure from the outside by comparison. Explaining it away with reporting standards that they should have been holding to for City, is kind of missing the point. They have played their part in this and you'd be blind not to see it.

I don't rate Ziegler and he could well be wide of the mark but you have to at least acknowledge his standards are more consistent than 99% of them on such matters. I get the impression that for any other big club than City, the majority would rather sit on/ignore stories like this, until they absolutely have to cover it and even then it's the bare minimum.
 
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waspish said:
Yeah that's true! Chelsea owners believe though that the payers they bought will get them back into champs league make them earn more money get better sponsors! You're right though it's not sustainable because what if they don't get champs league!?
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Surely someone is going to ask City and Spurs how they'd celebrate their title wins for the 14/15 and 16/17 seasons?

I assume Pellegrini will have a party in his garden.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Tbh, all the discussion the last few days has been a big nothing-burger.

I am sure United have been working with the PL to make sure they were compliant. They would have been close anyway.

As for Chelsea, of course they are negotiating a financial settlement. Doesn't mean they will get one. No point getting upset at Ziegler for just reporting what he is told in the way it has been told to him. A better journalist may have analysed the options and outcomes, but we are where we are with journalism. Rather get angry at the leak, wherever and whyever it came from. It's (again) supposed to be confidential.

Frankly, I don't care about either of those issues. All I am interested in is the club being cleared of the most serious allegations. The rest is a big yawn ......
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I disagree, there’s a difference between working with the premier league & aided whilst running hostile investigations on ourselves & others. It stinks.
 
waspish said:
Stefan looks at the facts reads the rules what premier put in place! Problem is the premier are little puppies when it comes to certain clubs with American owners they get no backing from other clubs to go after certain clubs but when it us the vast majority of the premier teams are all for screwing us so premier then have backbone
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No one outside the process knows for certain what kind of punishment we might face if found guilty. It could be a fine, a points deduction, or even relegation to the National League. Contrary to the doomsday theories here, the Premier League might not want us to be relegated, as it could disrupt sponsorship deals and TV rights.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
They're allowed the same as under FFP, so youth development and women's football expenses, plus depreciation on infrastructure. That's probably worth another £80m to them I reckon. They'll only have scraped through by the skin of their teeth though. Once those inflated allowances run out though, they'll have to conjure up some more. Otherwise they could be in real trouble (but I'll believe that when I see it).
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Haven't they spent money on Carrington and upgraded medical facilities as well. It does sound like they are very tight though so don't expect them to have money for players for next couple of windows unless they sell some homegrown.
 
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