Russian invasion of Ukraine

[cleavers]

it’s a wild theory I would dismiss myself quite happily

It's a ridiculous idea, anyone would think you were being a WUM.

 

[johnny crossan]

If you really believe that you're a fool, how would that possibly benefit the US ?

The Russians would pay for them?

 

[mosssideblue]

The Russians would pay for them?

You mean Ukraine would via Putin

 

[johnny crossan]

You mean Ukraine would via Putin

correct, further enriching Trumps rich backers is what everything is about now.

 

[TinFoilHat]

 

[fulabeer]

The biggest world threat at the moment is Trump dropping Russians sanctions.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

The biggest world threat at the moment is Trump dropping Russians sanctions.

I think that's a near certainty.

 

[mosssideblue]

The biggest world threat at the moment is Trump dropping Russians sanctions.

Agree. Trump is more of a danger than Putin

 

[Mikeegrini]

Kennedy wouldn't have missiles in his back yard, why should Putin have them in his. I couldn't believe it when Russia invaded Ukraine. But it could have been resolved without this bloodshed.

Go on then, how do you resolve an invasion without bloodshed?

 

[The Colonel]

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Yep Brad Pewting, I heard he's very good.

 

[mosssideblue]

Go on then, how do you resolve an invasion without bloodshed?

Simple, you roll over and allow yourself and countrymen to be steamrolled

 

[BlueHammer85]

It's a ridiculous idea, anyone would think you were being a WUM.

I would have dismissed the idea that Trump would blame Zelensky for starting the war and negotiate a peace deal with only Russia and not Ukraine a year ago.

 

[remember arthur mann]

So any desire to Join NATO was actually a direct reaction to Russian Aggression in the 1st place.

I don't think that's correct

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Go on then, how do you resolve an invasion without bloodshed?

@remember arthur mann you've been asked this several times. What's your answer?

 

[mosssideblue]

I would have dismissed the idea that Trump would blame Zelensky for starting the war and negotiate a peace deal with only Russia and not Ukraine a year ago.

Had to laugh at Trump on the one o’clock news. I was able to negotiate a few ago a situation whereby no land would be conceded and no lives lost but Zelensky ignored it.

Trump is unstable in the extreme, hopefully he meets his maker pdq

 

[mosssideblue]

Between Trump and Putin, they want to destabilise NATO European Nations enabling Putin to invade them one by one, with Trump getting a good payoff

 

[remember arthur mann]

@remember arthur mann you've been asked this several times. What's your answer?

Like I said at the beginning, negotiate before the escalation. And like I also said, I was astounded with the invasion.

 

[blueinsa]

Agree. Trump is more of a danger than Putin

I read that the cost to US business stood at $300Billion so far so 100% the sanctions imposed by the US are going to disappear.

Imagine for one second a time in history where the USA is actually in bed with Russia whilst falling out with Europe?

Crazy times.

 

[Ronnie the Rep]

some people would beg to differ and those people are nuts

One point the yank makes that is true is that most European countries do not have the capacity to defend their own borders

 

[grunge]

I don't think that's correct

Did you even look?

Ukraine–NATO relations - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Polls held before 2014 found low support among Ukrainians for NATO membership. However, Ukrainian public support for NATO membership has risen greatly during the Russo-Ukrainian War, and there has been overwhelming public support for joining NATO since the 2022 Russian invasion.

There 6 different references in Wiki for you to review and plenty of other sources to show polls pre and post 2014.