Florian Wirtz

I had no doubts he would would join Bayern.

As discussed, it's very rare a German player who is in their prime or entering it doesn't join Bayern.

It's a bit similar to the very best Italian players and how they always end up at one of the big 3 in Italy.

This is Mario Gotze all over again when he was the in demand young player everyone wanted and Bayern signed him as a club. Pep didn't even have a say.
 
Gorbachev said:
I had no doubts he would would join Bayern.

As discussed, it's very rare a German player who is in their prime or entering it doesn't join Bayern.

It's a bit similar to the very best Italian players and how they always end up at one of the big 3 in Italy.

This is Mario Gotze all over again when he was the in demand young player everyone wanted and Bayern signed him as a club. Pep didn't even have a say.
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The difference is that Gotze cost 35M, while Wirtz will cost them 135M. How on earth is a Bundesliga club supposed to pull that off without serious questions being asked? The way they dictate these moves like it’s their birthright, while somehow having the money ready whenever they want, is beyond suspicious. It’s blatant corruption, yet everyone just looks the other way. This monopoly over German players is a disgrace and makes me sick.

Again, since when can a Bundesliga club afford such fees?
 
Interesting to see how much Bayern will offer. Bayer do not want to sell to Bayern so it will take a huge bid.

The first tweet is basically saying Bayern want him…that’s not news.

The second tweet comes from “Bayern Space”
 
Aguuuerroooooo said:
The difference is that Gotze cost 35M, while Wirtz will cost them 135M. How on earth is a Bundesliga club supposed to pull that off without serious questions being asked? The way they dictate these moves like it’s their birthright, while somehow having the money ready whenever they want, is beyond suspicious. It’s blatant corruption, yet everyone just looks the other way. This monopoly over German players is a disgrace and makes me sick.

Again, since when can a Bundesliga club afford such fees?
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They revenue something like £750m a year and run profit. They have better shirt selling revenue than Liverpool and United if I recall. Only Madrid and Barca make more.

They do a very good job of marketing their football club outside of Germany and are recognised worldwide as a brand.

Yes, they have a monopoly but Bayern are an absolute monster conglomerate of a football club and could easily compete with any other team in Europe for transfer fees and wages if they wanted to.
 
Just because Bayern and Real give some stories to the press about who they want does not mean the player wants it, nor their agent wants it. We tend to feel that every German player is desperate to join Bayern, but we also think that every top English player wants Barca or Real. It is part of our lingering inferiority complex, yet we need not feel that way, or David Silva and Sergio, to name but two, would not be club icons because they'd have left the first time Marca or Bild led with a story about how they wanted to leave us.
 
Seeing more stuff on the X timeline today that he wants Bayern.

Not too fussed on this one really - plenty of good creative midfielders out there.
 
This looks out of reach unfortunately.

Maybe go and have a look at Ødegaard? He ain’t winning the league with Arsenal anytime soon.
 
Aguuuerroooooo said:


It’s downright disgusting how they have an iron grip on every German player. The level of control is absurd, and you can’t tell me this doesn’t reek of a monopoly. It’s beyond obvious at this point.
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Well they using it. We shouldn’t be mad about that. That’s business. Still don’t see him and Musiala working out together but he doesn’t wanna leave Germany I guess.
 
Aguuuerroooooo said:
Every single player in the world would choose Man City and the Prem ahead of Bayern, so how come we’re not allowed to question the obvious monopoly they have over German players?
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Bayern are a bigger club than us and Wirtz is German. What you’re saying is false.

Wirtz is German, he might well value the Bundesliga in his home country as more important than the Premier League.
 
King Jay said:
We are not.
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I get what you're saying, but by that logic you could say united are bigger than us *washes mouth out*

I don't get why people debate over "big" clubs, we're the most successful club of the last decade along with real Madrid, so surely that makes us the 2 current "biggest" clubs? It's pointless being "big" if other clubs have more success than you, surely that's what makes players want to join?

But yeah in Wirtz' case I could definitely understand why he would chose Bayern
 
keemcfc said:
I get what you're saying, but by that logic you could say united are bigger than us *washes mouth out*

I don't get why people debate over "big" clubs, we're the most successful club of the last decade along with real Madrid, so surely that makes us the 2 current "biggest" clubs? It's pointless being "big" if other clubs have more success than you, surely that's what makes players want to join?

But yeah in Wirtz' case I could definitely understand why he would chose Bayern
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There’s a difference between success and size of a club. We’re not bigger than that lot, only a fool would suggest otherwise. We are however a miles better club. The size of a club isn’t determined only by recent success, Bournemouth aren’t bigger than Leeds for example.

Re Bayern, we've not been more successful than them in the past ten years. Some people are deluding themselves here.
 
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