PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[eastmanc]

Exactly. Hardly going to tell him they had a fucking nightmare.

UEFA did the same before the CAS verdict was known.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Didn't UEFA consider Fordham to be against the "spirit of the rules" rather than breaking them, if I remember correctly a lot of (all?) clubs were trying similar workarounds.

There's no way that we did as requested by UEFA and shut it down but then tried to hide any payments related to it. To be honest that question comes across as paranoid schizophrenia at best.

I agree with that view that it was strictly legal and above board but not necessarily within the spirit of the FFP rules. UEFA had the opportunity to take action against us yet didn't.

 

[Damocles]

Think having a conversation with 3 anti-City journalists about their point of view means you're an anti-city journalist

No but claiming you're "seeking answers to get your head straight on the issue" then exclusively talking to 3 people with vested and often financial interests in believing the extreme interpretation isn't exactly best practice of epistemology.

 

[Silva2021]

Saying they are confident could just be a way of covering their arses after spending £50 million of the Premier Leagues money on the case . They really can't say anything else can they. Mind you neither can we.

Also they have not said it, Sam Lee has said it.

We also don’t know what they are confident on, some charges, all etc.

Too long with no info, means that we read too much into very little.

 

[domalino]

No but claiming you're "seeking answers to get your head straight on the issue" then exclusively talking to 3 people with vested and often financial interests in believing the extreme interpretation isn't exactly best practice of epistemology.

He didn't exclusively talk to those 3 though, did he? At the time he was appearing weekly on 9320 pod and hosting his own Man City podcast with David Mooney. So as someone who works around the club, travels with the club, spends hours a week chatting with City fans about this subject, he just spoke to some people outside that bubble.

 

[Donmcfc]

True except he’s paid to lie for a living remember.

So by his fetid scribblings he’s got a 50/65 chance of being correct.

See - being a clueless, lying cnut is real easy - only thing is I don’t get paid or get free food from City. ( I spent the £10 on alcohol)

I spent mine on cheese and onion pies.

 

[Shirley]

I really can't give a shit about any of this because Sam Lee like every other journalist is just getting steers and nods from people around the club and PL, so we already know he knows nothing, just like everyone else.

Having said that I genuinely can't imagine being so childish you (1) Think having a conversation with 3 anti-City journalists about their point of view means you're an anti-city journalist and (2) Keep a screenshot of it for 5 years to whip out any time he reports something you don't like.




So like every single City fan? There's a reason we get 3,000 page threads every time Pep's contract runs down.



I wish people would just admit they hate him because they found out he grew up a United fan. The mood towards him changed overnight on here when he said that on Ahsan's podcast. Meanwhile everyone outside the City fanbase thinks he's a City mouthpiece that can't be relied on to do anything other than spout the club's line.

If you don't like him don't read his stuff, but don't pretend he's part of some anti-city cabal.

H writes for a rag and dipper fanzine….FACT

 

[oakiecokie]

He said something on twitter along the lines of “are there any normal City fans on here who accept their club is at least somewhat dodgy?”.

He had an obsession with Pep leaving which has been the case for at least 5 years.

He also aligned himself with this mob:

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Sam if you`re reading this can I just point out that to get your head on straight it must be fully attached to the rest of your body.

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

No but claiming you're "seeking answers to get your head straight on the issue" then exclusively talking to 3 people with vested and often financial interests in believing the extreme interpretation isn't exactly best practice of epistemology.

Hahah one word I thought I’d never read on here!

 

[HelloCity]

I really can't give a shit about any of this because Sam Lee like every other journalist is just getting steers and nods from people around the club and PL, so we already know he knows nothing, just like everyone else.

Having said that I genuinely can't imagine being so childish you (1) Think having a conversation with 3 anti-City journalists about their point of view means you're an anti-city journalist and (2) Keep a screenshot of it for 5 years to whip out any time he reports something you don't like.




So like every single City fan? There's a reason we get 3,000 page threads every time Pep's contract runs down.



I wish people would just admit they hate him because they found out he grew up a United fan. The mood towards him changed overnight on here when he said that on Ahsan's podcast. Meanwhile everyone outside the City fanbase thinks he's a City mouthpiece that can't be relied on to do anything other than spout the club's line.

If you don't like him don't read his stuff, but don't pretend he's part of some anti-city cabal.

I’ll think how and why I want thanks.

I don’t need your ODD on the case.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

That’s just him being a wumming little ****.

He should be ignored every single time he opens his mouth.

It will just be idle gossip at the football finance conference. Probably just a throwaway line over coffee from someone connected to the PL (or another club director) along the lines of: "We can't say anything but we are always confident." That is enough for a charlatan like Sam Lee to conjure up a speculation piece on his social media feed. This is the way the modern media works. Just the usual bollocks.

 

[ComfySeats]

There's too many pages to read and far to much speculation to digest. Does anyone know categorically of the outcome will come at the end of march? I have read some articles saying it is and Others saying it could go on and on. So like everything else related to this debacle is the result date being touted also just speculation?

 

[halfcenturyup]

“Dismissal” here means finding City not liable of a breach. So the primary basis for an appeal. The question of appeal will likely depend on the factual findings and what is left open for questioning by an appeal in terms of the application of law.

I consider myself to have been educated. Again. I was thinking "complaint" related to the whole complaint of 115/130 alleged breaches, not any particular breach within the complaint. Bloody lawyers :)

So is it likely an appeals panel will reconsider liability and then pass the findings back to the original panel for sanction? Or will the appeals panel consider sanctions themselves? Seems strange (and a little disrespectful) to pass the whole thing round from one to the other like a hot potato .....

 

[Silva2021]

There's too many pages to read and far to much speculation to digest. Does anyone know categorically of the outcome will come at the end of march? I have read some articles saying it is and Others saying it could go on and on. So like everything else related to this debacle is the result date being touted also just speculation?

No, we have timeframes indicated by both PL and City.

These will be based on an estimate given by the tribunal.

You can probably be confident the decision has been made and this self imposed deadline is the writing up of the judgement.

Which is going to be long, very long!

There will also be a delay between the result being given to the parties and being announced.

No-one knows if we are in this period or not, outside those involved.

I don’t think we are, but it is possible.

Hence things such as the Pep wink can potentially be relevant, but again we won’t know that until we hear.

Set your expectations for Easter and then anything before is a bonus.

 

[supercity88]

No, we have timeframes indicated by both PL and City.

These will be based on an estimate given by the tribunal.

You can probably be confident the decision has been made and this self imposed deadline is the writing up of the judgement.

Which is going to be long, very long!

There will also be a delay between the result being given to the parties and being announced.

No-one knows if we are in this period or not, outside those involved.

I don’t think we are, but it is possible.

Hence things such as the Pep wink can potentially be relevant, but again we won’t know that until we hear.

Set your expectations for Easter and then anything before is a bonus.

There won't be a delay if the outcome is negative for City. It will be leaked immediately.

 

[TinFoilHat]

There won't be a delay if the outcome is negative for City. It will be leaked immediately.

It would be all over the front of FSG supporting New York Times.

 

[SWP's back]

I really can't give a shit about any of this because Sam Lee like every other journalist is just getting steers and nods from people around the club and PL, so we already know he knows nothing, just like everyone else.

Having said that I genuinely can't imagine being so childish you (1) Think having a conversation with 3 anti-City journalists about their point of view means you're an anti-city journalist and (2) Keep a screenshot of it for 5 years to whip out any time he reports something you don't like.




So like every single City fan? There's a reason we get 3,000 page threads every time Pep's contract runs down.



I wish people would just admit they hate him because they found out he grew up a United fan. The mood towards him changed overnight on here when he said that on Ahsan's podcast. Meanwhile everyone outside the City fanbase thinks he's a City mouthpiece that can't be relied on to do anything other than spout the club's line.

If you don't like him don't read his stuff, but don't pretend he's part of some anti-city cabal.

100% this and anyone that’s listened to his podcasts “why always us” and “let me talk” for the last five years will know exactly how much Sam is pro-City.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Didn't UEFA consider Fordham to be against the "spirit of the rules" rather than breaking them, if I remember correctly a lot of (all?) clubs were trying similar workarounds.

There's no way that we did as requested by UEFA and shut it down but then tried to hide any payments related to it. To be honest that question comes across as paranoid schizophrenia at best.

I try to keep my schizophrenia in check here :)

My other self says UEFA didn't come to any conclusion on Fordham. It was just part of the 2014 settlement, I think. And it operated until 2017? You only have to look at the Fordham accounts when it stopped "trading" to see losses of 50-60 million.

 

[Stoned Rose]

He said something on twitter along the lines of “are there any normal City fans on here who accept their club is at least somewhat dodgy?”.

He had an obsession with Pep leaving which has been the case for at least 5 years.

He also aligned himself with this mob:

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“Sportswashing” is a “complex topic”.

FFS what a massive ringpiece.

 

[Stoned Rose]

No but claiming you're "seeking answers to get your head straight on the issue" then exclusively talking to 3 people with vested and often financial interests in believing the extreme interpretation isn't exactly best practice of epistemology.

Big words are reserved for @gordondaviesmoustache mate.