North Stand Construction Discussion

[Penders1957]

They Can be ducted, with controls. But something of this scale, this many floors, this size of floorplate, it wouldn't be that efficient through the length of ducts that would be needed. Also means if the aircon unit breaks, instead of one room of angry customers that you can move, you end up with say 10 or more rooms to deal with, if served by one unit. Besides I've just looked at the floor plans and the risers between the rooms don't look big enough for vertical ducts, not for this many storeys.

Not sure I get your question on the heat pumps, but might be in my earlier post, of the two in succession.

Cheers for that , my point was if there are no vents through the roof save SVPs and they appear to have finished the roof covering on that section how does it get from the roof to the duct ?? Can the a/c not be hot and cold ?? Suppose the corridors and open areas would/may be a problem ??

 

[Coatigan]

Cheers for that , my point was if there are no vents through the roof save SVPs and they appear to have finished the roof covering on that section how does it get from the roof to the duct ?? Can the a/c not be hot and cold ?? Suppose the corridors and open areas would/may be a problem ??

See my earlier post on the previous page, they wouldn't need ducted to the building, just cables to a collection control point.

 

[Penders1957]

See my earlier post on the previous page, they wouldn't need ducted to the building, just cables to a collection control point.

Thanks coatigan , I understand now , clueless about heat source air pumps ! Doh !!

 

[jrb]

Any chance of the cap going on tomorrow, or is it next week now?

 

[Bournemouth Blue]

Any chance of the cap going on tomorrow, or is it next week now?

If the cap fits, I am sure they will do it as soon as the weather allows

 

[ssskies]

Video from the Etihad today, close look at the top of the spires.

 

[Coatigan]

‘If’ it is a case of it not fitting due to the angles, the only way I can see to secure it is to remove the plates highlighted in yellow. 3 of the 4 legs could then be bolted up. The other half of the cross connections on that leg could also be secured.

How the hell you would support those plates when reattaching them is another matter?!

Ooooooh, so close!

They've done almost exactly that, as you can see in SS's latest video.



10 points to Griffindor!

 

[Gray]

Ooooooh, so close!

They've done almost exactly that, as you can see in SS's latest video.

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10 points to Griffindor!

6 plates removed, that should do the trick'

 

[WARBABY]

Can't they loosen the legs and jiggle them about into place whilst the cap is on top of the legs? ;-)

It reminds me of putting an IKEA wardrobe together.

A fucking nightmare.

What as 4 legs 2 arms and wobbles




Answer:- an IKEA chair

 

[Bournemouth Blue]

Personally I wouldn’t fancy putting an IKEA wardrobe together 39 metres above the planet. Respect to the guys who are doing this complex construction.

 

[jrb]

What as 4 legs 2 arms and wobbles




Answer:- an IKEA chair

For some reason I always used to have a few wooden dowels left over. Probably due to me forgetting to knock them in.

I wonder if you can see the Etihad from the top of the IKEA car park? I might drive down and see if you can see it, and get some pictures.

Whilst I'm there I'll get some of those cheap but delicious hot dogs.

 

[Coatigan]

Personally I wouldn’t fancy putting an IKEA wardrobe together 39 metres above the planet. Respect to the guys who are doing this complex construction.

64.

But the point stands ;).

 

[shnaghaicityfish]

 

[Coatigan]

Those 5th - 7th rows of bolt holes on the plates will take some blind reaching to tighten.

Once all connected, do we think they would sleeve over the connection or likely leave the cross exposed as is?

 

[Gray]

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Those 5th - 7th rows of bolt holes on the plates will take some blind reaching to tighten.

Once all connected, do we think they would sleeve over the connection or likely leave the cross exposed as is?

I reckon they would cover it somehow.

Got a lot of bolts to fit, 184 by my count plus putting the 6 plates back.

 

[mcfcblue20]

Activity at tower just now , crane there at top couldn't see if it's in place the cap

 

[Gordyola]

IMHO this is poor design in that it’s not taken into account, enough, how it is to be fixed into position especially considering the height and the weight. part in blue could have been fitted post installation and either bolted in situ or welded

 

[Centurions]

IMHO this is poor design in that it’s not taken into account, enough, how it is to be fixed into position especially considering the height and the weight. View attachment 149073part in blue could have been fitted post installation and either bolted in situ or welded

Given the stresses involved and the fact that we don't know what the internal structure looks like, I'd say no to bolting or welding in situ.

 

[mexico1970]

Meccano sets must have been high on many of your Christmas lists, I preferred airfix kits myself.

 

[Goatmeal]

IMHO this is poor design in that it’s not taken into account, enough, how it is to be fixed into position especially considering the height and the weight. View attachment 149073part in blue could have been fitted post installation and either bolted in situ or welded

I think the two sets of cross plates are a bad design to line up at that weight and height.
Maybe if there was three sets of plates on each to mate with 3 prongs it would be easier to line up and give more space for bolting.
Just use a thicker gauge plate.
Looking at it. The two flanged diameters are the more load bearing.