Morgan Gibbs-White

Viana has looked at his stats looked at our team and thought we are missing him. He's averaged a 7/10 rating all season. Top 5 key pass creators in the whole league, Top 5 expected assists, won the most aerials and won 50 percent of his ground duels for a AM that's very good.

His expected goals is very high as well 4.53 xg
Highest ball recovery for a AM in the league something we've lacked

His heat map this season , shows he is everywhere

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Where have you got these stats from?

Saying his expected goals at 4.53 is very high means nothing without context. Paqueta has been very poor this season. What is Paqueta's expected goals?

I'd be very surprised if he is top 5 expected assists in the league. That would mean he is around Salah, Palmer, Saka, Fernandes etc who have much more threat.

I'd hazard a guess that he is behind someone like James Maddison in both xg and xa
 
I think he’s a good player personally, showed it in the semis as well.

Quick, strong, good control and drives with the ball like Kev used to. I think he’ll be a great addition.

Nobody had a go at us for buying Nico Gonzales but he’s not anywhere as good as MGW.

Most importantly, he looks to play a forward pass, not be on the end of them, most of our 10’s or forwards that we’ll have next season like to make runs and literally nobody is playing those passes into them. Far too safe from Gundogan, Bernardo etc.

He’s got legs, stamina and he’s dragged Forrest to the brink of champions league qualification. He’s a very good player.
Totally agree with this post
 
I’d potentially be ok with this, but not totally convinced Foden is a wide player. Or that Pep will go this way. Although Foden hasnt always convinced centrally either so its a possibility I guess. The other issue would be we’d then need a top top level AM if Foden is wide (not MGW) and that might be difficult with the Wirtz deal looking dead in the water… Who else, Palmer maybe?

If Foden is central, we could maybe look to get an Eze/Raphinha/Rodrygo/Mbuemo/Cherki/Johnson/etc. Who else is getable?
I just don't think Foden is as good at creating as I always thought he'd be. I went back and watched lots of his youth highlights, and came to the realization he was always more of a scoring, dribbling midfielder than he ever was a creator.

I like him in that inside left position where his speed, close dribbling, movement, feints and shooting are all most effective and dangerous.

He and Marmoush are exceptionally talented attacking players with flaws in their game. We
 
I just don't think Foden is as good at creating as I always thought he'd be. I went back and watched lots of his youth highlights, and came to the realization he was always more of a scoring, dribbling midfielder than he ever was a creator.

I like him in that inside left position where his speed, close dribbling, movement, feints and shooting are all most effective and dangerous.

He and Marmoush are exceptionally talented attacking players with flaws in their game. We
I think thats a fair shout. Foden hasn't developed his creativity levels as we’d all hoped he would. So it’s a quandary. I guess it depends on who we can get in. If its not Wirtz, as looks as though it wont be, maybe one of the wide players I mentioned previously are more attainable and Foden shifts inside? Be interesting to see how it plays out!!
 
He’s got legs, stamina and he’s dragged Forrest to the brink of champions league qualification. He’s a very good player.
Lol......he has 'dragged' fuck all.
Forest are where they are because the team is a very organised, defense based, sum of its 'mediocre' parts. The two CB's are solid and complement each other, but defend their own box and would be torn apart playing a high line, the midfield and full backs are very hard working, Elanga and Hudson-Odoi always look their most threatening, but spend time on the bench because they don't fit the 'solid' unit, and Wood has had an 'Indian summer' of a season, where everything he hits goes in.
They will sell a couple, buy a couple.....but if they did neither and had this same squad, imo, they would struggle to, and probably not, make the top 10 next season.
 
I think thats a fair shout. Foden hasn't developed his creativity levels as we’d all hoped he would. So it’s a quandary. I guess it depends on who we can get in. If its not Wirtz, as looks as though it wont be, maybe one of the wide players I mentioned previously are more attainable and Foden shifts inside? Be interesting to see how it plays out!!
I'd rather someone like the Brazilian kid from Turkey or Arda Guler who is surplus at Madrid. An actual creative type. I have faith in the overall teams chemistry and possession ability to help with the creation of chances. Even Tijjani Reindjer might work. There are 2 or 3 guys at Barca that would work. Fermin Lopez, Olmo or Gavi are all great options. And they all cant start at Barca.

But we might have to just wait this out and not rush it.

I think we also have some young guys who we should see what they have. I personally love Bobb and the talk of Echeveri's potential is well known.

I just don't want us adding multiple good players with low ceilings. Either find just one guy or skip midfield altogether and strengthen the full back positions and see what we have in Bobb and Echeveri at the creative position.

I really like Marmoush and Foden as our goal scoring wide forwards. But If Foden goes to the middle, im guessing Savio simply just starts on the right backed up by Bobb.

And that's not bad either. Savio before this season was benching what's his face at Barcelona on the National team. So there is immense potential there too.
 
Viana has looked at his stats looked at our team and thought we are missing him. He's averaged a 7/10 rating all season. Top 5 key pass creators in the whole league, Top 5 expected assists, won the most aerials and won 50 percent of his ground duels for a AM that's very good.

His expected goals is very high as well 4.53 xg
Highest ball recovery for a AM in the league something we've lacked

His heat map this season , shows he is everywhere

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Viana & Txiki, are obviously a bigger waste of money than Phillips was, and Gibbs-White would be......when you could be employed on minimum wage to look at 'stats' instead of them? There are so many 'variables' to them, it probably explains most shite transfers.
 
I tell you what, how some people can say he's shit on the ball yet judge him based on watching a Forest game is beyond me - I watched him on Monday and his neck must've been aching with the constant back and forth hoofing from back to front.
 
I tell you what, how some people can say he's shit on the ball yet judge him based on watching a Forest game is beyond me - I watched him on Monday and his neck must've been aching with the constant back and forth hoofing from back to front.
I think the mistake a lot of people are making is looking at MGW in isolation as opposed to thinking about how he fits as a larger puzzle piece. I think his skillset works nicely alongside Rodri and Wirtz. You got your stars in the form of Rodri and Wirtz and guy in MGW that can work well alongside them bringing skills like a tenacious pressing ability. I also think MGW has the ability to get the ball to Haaland in a way that will only make our attack more dangerous. Your point about his work rate is another key skill.
 
I’m not completely sold on MGW but I think a lot of people are looking at his creative stats and saying “oh he’s not good enough” but he’s much more of an all rounder than that. Excellent stamina, work rate and defensive ability on top of decent creative and other attacking stats.

I think he’s a really good player, for Forest. Whether he’d be able to adapt from Forest’s fast paced counter attacking play to City’s 75% possession vs 10 men behind the ball football is what I am worried about.
 
I think thats a fair shout. Foden hasn't developed his creativity levels as we’d all hoped he would. So it’s a quandary. I guess it depends on who we can get in. If its not Wirtz, as looks as though it wont be, maybe one of the wide players I mentioned previously are more attainable and Foden shifts inside? Be interesting to see how it plays out!!
I always thought foden was the most natural player since gazza and joe Cole who was pure raw skill and apart from last season which was horrendous for him he has been great . Massive season for him coming though
 
The starting wide forwards will be Foden and Marmoush. Backed up by Dolu and Savihno. Both Foden and Marmoush bring goals. Savihno and Roku bring direct dribbling and assists.

Its actually quite the formidable 4-some. And this doesn't even account for Bobb and his potential.

Central midfield needs one young excellent playmaker ( this could very well be Bobb or Echeveri) or another excellent player to lead the creative impetus on the team.

That's how i see us in future. Playing with 3 attackers. Marmooush, Halaand, Fosen with 3 CMs. Rodri, Gonzo/Kova and an AM behind the front 3.

If we don't get Wirtz or any creative type, I'd rather we consider attacking full backs on both sides and play with 3 CMs - Rodri, Gonzo and Kova ( or one of Gundo, Bernie or Rico) with high flying fullbacks and inside wide players woith lots of goals in them.

I think we already have lots of the needed personnel in house.

There isn't the defensive balance in this line up with a real lack of running power in midfield. Most PL teams are now set up to counter, so when attacks break down I fail to see how MGW's energy, tenacity and leadership wouldn't be very useful in reducing the risk of quick transitions,
 
There isn't the defensive balance in this line up with a real lack of running power in midfield. Most PL teams are now set up to counter, so when attacks break down I fail to see how MGW's energy, tenacity and leadership wouldn't be very useful in reducing the risk of quick transitions,
It would, especially if we lose Bernardo but even if he stays Gibbs White would replace a lot of what Bernardo used to bring. It’s impossible to know about players intelligence and ability to learn what Pep demands, but MGW certainly has the tools if he has the football brain to go with them.
Just as it’s impossible for me to say he can adapt to Pep though it’s also impossible for his critics to know that he couldn’t.
 
Good job Viana is working under instructions from Pep then, so I guess this lad will be the downfall of Pep if it happens in your book.
I think hugo viena will live or die at man city with this signing.
Like henderson signing cost the recruitment head of liverpool his job.
 
I think hugo viena will live or die at man city with this signing.
Like henderson signing cost the recruitment head of liverpool his job.

Think it was Andy Carroll wasn't it.

Pound for pound one of the worst deals ever done that was.

What he went for would be like £80m-£90m nowadays, maybe more.

After 6 months in the PL.
 
I always thought foden was the most natural player since gazza and joe Cole who was pure raw skill and apart from last season which was horrendous for him he has been great . Massive season for him coming though
We need someone who can link up with haaland. Apart from debruyne and nunes there's no one who has been continiously assisting haaland.
 
It would, especially if we lose Bernardo but even if he stays Gibbs White would replace a lot of what Bernardo used to bring. It’s impossible to know about players intelligence and ability to learn what Pep demands, but MGW certainly has the tools if he has the football brain to go with them.
Just as it’s impossible for me to say he can adapt to Pep though it’s also impossible for his critics to know that he couldn’t.
yes... we don't exactly know what he sees in players. Thats why he is a genius.
He sees good in mcatee, good in bernardo, good in that previous brighton manager now managing in france, Paqueta, guimeres etc. May be he sees something in MGW as well.
 
Pound for pound one of the worst deals ever done that was.

What he went for would be like £80m-£90m nowadays, maybe more.

After 6 months in the PL.
But they got Suarez also in the same window, so It all worked out. Sometimes its better to be lucky than good
 

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