PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[BringBackSwales]

There is no way we are innocent of everything is there? I just hope the main issues we are charged with are not guilty

Why can’t we be innocent of everything?

 

[BringBackSwales]

If guilt can’t be proven then we are innocent.

Or if we’ve done nothing wrong we are innocent

 

[NorthamptonBlue]

Or if we’ve done nothing wrong we are innocent

Either or both work for me.

 

[horlock_was_super]

Let's start a campaign when it's over "Now Audit the Other 19" (NATO19)

NATO?
So we vanquish the EPL and their evil cartel and you want to go and upset Putin!?
You know what he thinks about NATO.

 

[Gazza]

NATO?
So we vanquish the EPL and their evil cartel and you want to go and upset Putin!?
You know what he thinks about NATO.

It's got a certain ring to it.

 

[Centurions]

So, what's the smart money on re when the verdict is announced? I've read on social media (yes, I know!) both the summer, and the autumn.

You can add winter and perhaps next spring to that list although that said, we still have a couple of days of this spring. If I was a gambling man I'd definitely have my money on one of those four.

 

[silva_is_gold]

Do some of our supporters not realise the charges arnt 115/30 separate charges ffs lol

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

I know this, that Sky, the bbc, the media read these forums. When the March rumours started on here and everyone thought it was going to happen so did the media. Sky and the bbc were issuing notices to their staff to be careful, they had reporters dedicated to it at at the time.

This forum influences the media, we should do it again.

 

[Centurions]

I know this, that Sky, the bbc, the media read these forums. When the March rumours started on here and everyone thought it was going to happen so did the media. Sky and the bbc were issuing notices to their staff to be careful, they had reporters dedicated to it at at the time.

This forum influences the media, we should do it again.

Defund the BBC?

 

[TinFoilHat]

 

[coolcity]

"If you don't give us the information to find you guilty with, then we'll find you guilty of non-cooperation, regardless if we didn't ask for that particular information in the first place".

Given the poor wording of their rules, they could actually do that as well.

Absolutely, I've said that all along although I didn't mention it on that particular post, but that's exactly what I believe they will find us guilty of. Then claim a huge victory to further attempt to damage our reputation.

What makes me angry about the whole thing is the boost that City have given to the worldwide viewing figures over the past 10-15 years. Record viewing figures, which is all more money in the coffers thanks to the TV rights. They're not tuning in to watch United are they?

 

[coolcity]

The Judges will decide timing but they may listen to opinions from both parties. There are issues like share prices and other commercial impacts which may impact some of our sponsors for example (if we lose). There is a potential for multiple ongoing legal actions from all sorts of places including other clubs. The Judges will be sensitive to these sort of issues.

Well, yes, but I doubt they're going to look into each and every facet, every contract, gain the opinion of every club that may feel they were affected. We already know all that is possible and so do they so I don't see it as something that's going to delay the judgement by any significant amount, if at all. What happens after the judgement is made is nothing to do with them and should have no bearing on the judgement.

 

[coolcity]

Seriously? I hate the bastards but right now they're a more attractive transfer to a neutral surely having just won the league at a canter and playing a faster/easier on the eye style of football?

The investigation may play a part of any decision but I can't go anywhere near as far in suggesting there's no other reason - sadly, there is atm.

I only watched two or three matches, other than those against us but I wasn't that impressed with them. Their points tally is way below what we achieved at our best, and without a great deal of serious competition this season.

 

[coolcity]

Surely if the Premier League cannot prove their accusations within a reasonable time frame then they need to be set aside?
If they had concrete evidence then the trial would be over by now.

In that case they should have been set aside years ago. To be trying to convict City for something that (may have) happened a decade ago is absurd in itself. It's not a criminal trial.

 

[bluemanchester]

As someone said on here - when US companies feel threatened they always resort to Regulate & Legislate tactics.

You may mean this post

 

[coolcity]

I think every club in the PL is guilty of something-that’s the farce of it. We are not the only PL club with creative accountants and slippery lawyers. I hope the whole corrupt PL House comes tumbling down.

Everything's corrupt though isn't it to some degree. Councils spending money on all sorts of vanity schemes when by law they're supposed to do the best for their residents. £15 for a printer cartridge with 10ml of ink, when you can but a litre at trade price for around £1 a litre or less (that's a 15,000% markup). Speed cameras raking in hundreds of millions despite statistical proof that they're not reducing the accident rate by any significant degree, if at all. £1000 for a laptop that cost £50 to make. Where do you want to draw the line?

 

[coolcity]

Yeah same here. All clubs have been playing the game, they're all at it. What I am hoping is that our club, knowing that the footballing world will be after us, have been squeaky clean. And I trust they have, the owner is not a fool, he is aware of our enemies and how they work.

For me, we are probably fighting a major battle around some nuances or technical breeches, (with some major non-achievable stuff where they set the bar too high for a guilty verdict) minor stuff in the world of football... Whilst the rest of the league are selling hotels to themselves or realigning PSR results with the help of the PL, or arranging illegal loans to themselves.

Yes but there's a difference between "playing the game" and actually breaking the rules. Bending them, such as registering a business offshore to save tax, isn't breaking any laws until laws are made to prevent it.

 

[halfcenturyup]

I know this, that Sky, the bbc, the media read these forums. When the March rumours started on here and everyone thought it was going to happen so did the media. Sky and the bbc were issuing notices to their staff to be careful, they had reporters dedicated to it at at the time.

This forum influences the media, we should do it again.

No wonder the sports press is in such a mess.

 

[mexico1970]

Yes but there's a difference between "playing the game" and actually breaking the rules. Bending them, such as registering a business offshore to save tax, isn't breaking any laws until laws are made to prevent it.

It's all semantics though isn't it? When certain clubs do fall foul of their own rules they seem to get a pass. The scouse with the shovel in the ground and the rags losing more money year on year than the Vardy woman should tell us that.

All the while we get charged and Everton and Forest get fucked over.

 

[elbearos]

I only watched two or three matches, other than those against us but I wasn't that impressed with them. Their points tally is way below what we achieved at our best, and without a great deal of serious competition this season.

And teams play more open against them