Madeleine McCann

mayo31 said:
Where did you go? I never met anyone who would do that unless between my kids being born and 2010 things changed hugely
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Turkey, it was absolutely the norm there.
Our kids were older when we were there. But Unlike others I certainly went down to meals in hotels and left the kids in the bedroom when they were the same age.
 
Cityfan said:
Turkey, it was absolutely the norm there.
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We went Turkey also and I never saw it there, first went in 2004 so my daughter was 7/8 so a bit older. Lad was 6

TBH when we went I was more protective in Turkey also. I remember people saying before we went watch the lads around your daughter

We went Icemelar again when she was 12 and the lads of say 15 to 18 were very attentive

If it happened as you say so be it but for me it a big no no.

The McCanns have been hugely unlucky but I do ask, why leave them alone. That is just not right
 
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Cityfan said:
Turkey, it was absolutely the norm there.
Our kids were older when we were there. But Unlike others I certainly went down to meals in hotels and left the kids in the bedroom when they were the same age.
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Answer me this. Would you go to work and leave your kids at home with no adults there to look after them? Maddies age, for example.
 
All them couples who went on that holiday should have gone without their children.

The kids were put into a crèche during the day then left unattended at night for various amounts of time while they had a knees up.

Fucking shocking all round with a super sad ending!
 
Went to Villamoura early 2000's, my lad was 2 and stayed at a hotel at the beach end of the Marina. Saw another British couple with a kid same age as our lad at the play ground in the hotel, so exchanged pleasantries with them a few times. We went out around the Marina one night, with our lad in the push chair and part way around we saw the other couple in a restaurant, without their kid. They had left him in the hotel room and seemed surprised that we were surprised they'd done that. This restaurant, was a good few hundred metres from the hotel, which in itself was large / multi-story, I have no idea how they thought that was acceptable.
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
Answer me this. Would you go to work and leave your kids at home with no adults there to look after them? Maddies age, for example.
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No but I know a lot of people who would go into their garden where bits are further away than the restaurant was and leave their kids whilst gardening.
I would certainly leave a kid at home to nip five minutes to the shops whilst they were sleeping.
 
Cityfan said:
No but I know a lot of people who would go into their garden where bits are further away than the restaurant was and leave their kids whilst gardening.
I would certainly leave a kid at home to nip five minutes to the shops whilst they were sleeping.
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And what happens to that child if something happens to you on the way to the shop and back?

You're the exact reason some people don't deserve kids. Nothing is more important than the safety of your child, certainly not a meal out with friends or a packet of fags from the shop.
 
Cityfan said:
No but I know a lot of people who would go into their garden where bits are further away than the restaurant was and leave their kids whilst gardening.
I would certainly leave a kid at home to nip five minutes to the shops whilst they were sleeping.
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Immaterial. They left their children, and something happened.

Whether that was/is common practice or not is irrelevant. They wouldn’t be in this situation if they hadn’t have done it.

‘Everyone else is doing it’ isn’t an excuse for shitty behaviour whatever the context.
 
AJ71 said:
Went to Villamoura early 2000's, my lad was 2 and stayed at a hotel at the beach end of the Marina. Saw another British couple with a kid same age as our lad at the play ground in the hotel, so exchanged pleasantries with them a few times. We went out around the Marina one night, with our lad in the push chair and part way around we saw the other couple in a restaurant, without their kid. They had left him in the hotel room and seemed surprised that we were surprised they'd done that. This restaurant, was a good few hundred metres from the hotel, which in itself was large / multi-story, I have no idea how they thought that was acceptable.
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I probably wouldn't do either but leaving young kids in a locked hotel room where noone could seem them is surely different to doing so in a ground floor villa/apartment with the patio doors open.
 
N1985 said:
And what happens to that child if something happens to you on the way to the shop and back?

You're the exact reason some people don't deserve kids. Nothing is more important than the safety of your child, certainly not a meal out with friends or a packet of fags from the shop.
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What do you think is going to happen? Can it not happen if I'm in the back garden?

Anyway you're safe from me having kids I am getting on a bit and the ones I have had survived my negligence.
 
BlueTG said:
Immaterial. They left their children, and something happened.

Whether that was/is common practice or not is irrelevant. They wouldn’t be in this situation if they hadn’t have done it.

‘Everyone else is doing it’ isn’t an excuse for shitty behaviour whatever the context.
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Well that's you're description of their behaviour as I say I have seen the same behaviour in many others and never thought of it as shitty. Each to their own.
 
Cityfan said:
No but I know a lot of people who would go into their garden where bits are further away than the restaurant was and leave their kids whilst gardening.
I would certainly leave a kid at home to nip five minutes to the shops whilst they were sleeping.
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5 minutes?

A fire can start in an instant. Literally an instant (I know this all too well). If you’re away and that fire starts, by the time your 5 minutes are up you will be coming home to devastation. Why would you leave a child for 5 minutes whilst you go to a shop? Can’t you just take it with you?

You and Jerry would get on well.
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
5 minutes?

A fire can start in an instant. Literally an instant (I know this all too well). If you’re away and that fire starts, by the time your 5 minutes are up you will be coming home to devastation. Why would you leave a child for 5 minutes whilst you go to a shop? Can’t you just take it with you?

You and Jerry would get on well.
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If I'm in the garden the fire could start just as easily , you need to be careful about not leaving things around that can cause fires . If the kid is having his afternoon nap much better not to disturb it.
 
An interesting discussion from 2002 here about Baby Listening Services at hotels. Seems some people still wanted it as recent as then. Butlins used to offer it many decades ago.

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My wife used to get left in the car in the pub car park in the seventies with her brothers, her mum and dad would nip out every so often with crisps and coke!

Times certainly have changed.
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
Yup my parents often left me and my brother at home whilst they went out. everyone did in our family tbh.
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At what age though? Sure from around twelve kids used to be left alone for a short while on occasion, with strict instructions and usually a friendly neighbour keeping an eye out. Not at three years of age and younger though.
 
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