Madeleine McCann

[Marklr]

No doubt. On the flip side, there are some people who are desperate for her to have been abducted and murdered by a paedophile so they can tell those who suspected the McCanns that they were wrong.

My own position has shifted considerably down the years. I used to be of the opinion that the McCanns were involved but as time has gone on I’ve leant more towards the abduction theory. The whole thing remains a huge mystery though.

Same here...I had thought they were obvious suspects, and I still have doubts about them, but now I'm pretty convinced of abduction.

 

[Ghandi's Flip Flops]

No doubt. On the flip side, there are some people who are desperate for her to have been abducted and murdered by a paedophile so they can tell those who suspected the McCanns that they were wrong.

My own position has shifted considerably down the years. I used to be of the opinion that the McCanns were involved but as time has gone on I’ve leant more towards the abduction theory. The whole thing remains a huge mystery though.

Im sorta of a similar opinion.
But after reading the translated Portuguese police files, im convinced the McCanns lied through their teeth about the events of that night, to the detriment of the investigation.

Their first thoughts seem to have been self preservation, not finding a missing daughter, and then for them to benefit finacially over the course of the investigation and after it still kinda grates.

 

[supercity88]

Im sorta of a similar opinion.
But after reading the translated Portuguese police files, im convinced the McCanns lied through their teeth about the events of that night, to the detriment of the investigation.

Their first thoughts seem to have been self preservation, not finding a missing daughter, and then for them to benefit finacially over the course of the investigation and after it still kinda grates.

I think you're right. They were concerned primarily about the optics and PR became their priority over the whereabouts of their daughter. Their behaviour was odd, their stories didn't add up and changed but I don't think that's because they had anything to do with it, they just panicked and attempted to cover their neglect.

As a result the Portuguese police were diverted away from the right line of investigation, although they were a shit show in how they handled things, failing to lockdown the apartment as a critical scene for evidence.

 

[Marklr]

He may well be the culprit but what I find interesting is that the Met don’t seem particularly invested in this line of inquiry and it all seems to be coming from the German side.

They must believe it was him...I can't see them spending all that time and money looking for evidence in Portugal based on nothing.

 

[Marklr]

I’ve not seen much evidence in the public domain pointing towards him to be honest. Don’t get me wrong, I can see why he’s a person of interest as he’s a sick bastard and fits the profile of someone who would abduct a young girl and it’s quite possible that he is responsible but unless the police are holding some key information back, there isn’t enough evidence to get him charged.

Sadly, I think this case likely only gets solved if a body is discovered.

Even if he was convicted, without a body, I'd still be doubtful. I think they'd need some rock solid proof, and I can't see that happening.

 

[Giovinco]

I’ve not seen much evidence in the public domain pointing towards him to be honest. Don’t get me wrong, I can see why he’s a person of interest as he’s a sick bastard and fits the profile of someone who would abduct a young girl and it’s quite possible that he is responsible but unless the police are holding some key information back, there isn’t enough evidence to get him charged.

Sadly, I think this case likely only gets solved if a body is discovered.

Did you watch the recent channel 4 documentary?

He was in the exact location on the night of the abduction.(phone records)

He raped a woman in the same area where Maddie went missing. He has a history of sexual
crimes which made him move a few months at a time between Germany and Portugal.

It was his MO and played out the abduction of a child in his head. He was in a paedohile ring sharing videos/pictures.

He even admitted that he kidnapped Maddie to one individual (if to be believed).

A witness saw a man matching his description carrying a young girl to a camper van (the same type Christian B had)

In Germany they found a trailer/shed but of horrific material to do with young children.

There’s probably more but I can’t remember it from the documentary.

But there’s no DNA evidence, actual witness to the event or body yet so that’s why they’re struggling to charge him.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Im sorta of a similar opinion.
But after reading the translated Portuguese police files, im convinced the McCanns lied through their teeth about the events of that night, to the detriment of the investigation.

Their first thoughts seem to have been self preservation, not finding a missing daughter, and then for them to benefit finacially over the course of the investigation and after it still kinda grates.

Have they benefitted financially from this?

 

[69FACUPfinal]

Same here...I had thought they were obvious suspects, and I still have doubts about them, but now I'm pretty convinced of abduction.

Same here.

 

[Ghandi's Flip Flops]

Have they benefitted financially from this?

The original money donation fund set up was considered a 'fighting fund' for legal costs.
It then got changed to the 'Find Madeleine' fund, but this was basically a Limited company, with the McCanns listed as directors.
Add onto that the book deal etc, and however it was dressed up the money was going straight into the McCanns pockets.

 

[M18CTID]

Did you watch the recent channel 4 documentary?

He was in the exact location on the night of the abduction.(phone records)

He raped a woman in the same area where Maddie went missing. He has a history of sexual
crimes which made him move a few months at a time between Germany and Portugal.

It was his MO and played out the abduction of a child in his head. He was in a paedohile ring sharing videos/pictures.

He even admitted that he kidnapped Maddie to one individual (if to be believed).

A witness saw a man matching his description carrying a young girl to a camper van (the same type Christian B had)

In Germany they found a trailer/shed but of horrific material to do with young children.

There’s probably more but I can’t remember it from the documentary.

But there’s no DNA evidence, actual witness to the event or body yet so that’s why they’re struggling to charge him.

Thanks. I’ve not seen the documentary but what you’ve posted certainly puts more meat on the bones and makes it understandable why he’s a prime suspect.

I did a bit more digging and I think the incident with the child and the camper van you’re referring to is the one in Spain a few weeks after she went missing. They traced the owner of that camper van and it wasn’t him so that’s been eliminated.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

You’d be a touch unfortunate would you not, if both your rental car and apartment had had a dead body in them just before you turned up on

Are you saying you've not had a cut on you or any of your passengers in your car during the time you've had it? Face facts, this is extremely filmsy evidence that quite rightly has been ruled out

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Are you saying you've not had a cut on you or any of your passengers in your car during the time you've had it? Face facts, this is extremely filmsy evidence that quite rightly has been ruled out

Dead body??

 

[BerkshireBlue]

Dead body??

Could be a dead chicken for all you know.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

I reckon the dog did it and tried to pin the blame on the parents.

Has anyone dug up the grassy knoll or checked the CCTV from that Paris restaurant?

 

[tonea2003]

In the bluemoon court that would nearly all of them culpable then

so leaving 3 toddlers unattended in a property on their own at night without a clear view of that property whilst dining
was not negligent?

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

You’d be a touch unfortunate would you not, if both your rental car and apartment had had a dead body in them just before you turned up on holiday?

I'm not sure people get this so the facts need laying out.

The night in question was May 3rd.

The car was rented May 28th. 25 days later!

The car was searched 7th August. 3 months later.

2 issues arise when you accept these basic facts.

Firstly how is the car relevant if it was rented 25 days after? Are you really suggesting her body was hidden (in the small window of time before the alarm was raised at 10pm) on the night of the 3rd May and then not found in 25 days of subsequent searching. With dogs. And then 25 days later the mcanns hire a car and then move the body (at a point that the small resort is awash with media and police).

Secondly assuming you believe the above plausible - did they find any forensic evidence to back up the dogs. No. Sniffer dogs are used to search. No judge would allow that kind of evidence alone as its not reliable. It needs to be backed up and it wasn't. And it was 3 months after! It's the weakest of evidence to support a barely plausible theory that has nothing else to back it up.

 

[smevchenko]

I'm not sure people get this so the facts need laying out.

The night in question was May 3rd.

The car was rented May 28th. 25 days later!

The car was searched 7th August. 3 months later.

2 issues arise when you accept these basic facts.

Firstly how is the car relevant if it was rented 25 days after? Are you really suggesting her body was hidden (in the small window of time before the alarm was raised at 10pm) on the night of the 3rd May and then not found in 25 days of subsequent searching. With dogs. And then 25 days later the mcanns hire a car and then move the body (at a point that the small resort is awash with media and police).

Secondly assuming you believe the above plausible - did they find any forensic evidence to back up the dogs. No. Sniffer dogs are used to search. No judge would allow that kind of evidence alone as its not reliable. It needs to be backed up and it wasn't. And it was 3 months after! It's the weakest of evidence to support a barely plausible theory that has nothing else to back it up.

How dare you lay out facts like this, people want to believe the most ridiculous of conspiracies!

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

so leaving 3 toddlers unattended in a property on their own at night without a clear view of that property whilst dining
was not negligent?

Negligence doesn’t necessarily equate to criminal liability.

 

[tonea2003]

I'm not sure people get this so the facts need laying out.

The night in question was May 3rd.

The car was rented May 28th. 25 days later!

The car was searched 7th August. 3 months later.

2 issues arise when you accept these basic facts.

Firstly how is the car relevant if it was rented 25 days after? Are you really suggesting her body was hidden (in the small window of time before the alarm was raised at 10pm) on the night of the 3rd May and then not found in 25 days of subsequent searching. With dogs. And then 25 days later the mcanns hire a car and then move the body (at a point that the small resort is awash with media and police).

Secondly assuming you believe the above plausible - did they find any forensic evidence to back up the dogs. No. Sniffer dogs are used to search. No judge would allow that kind of evidence alone as its not reliable. It needs to be backed up and it wasn't. And it was 3 months after! It's the weakest of evidence to support a barely plausible theory that has nothing else to back it up.

surely the question is why traces of her blood 25 days after she disappeared was in the boot of the car., not the renting of the car per se

 

[Dubai Blue]

surely the question is why traces of her blood 25 days after she disappeared was in the boot of the car., not the renting of the car per se

Surely the question is how you know it was her blood?