BimboBob
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You called them pre punk. That's the point I was making.I think you're missing the point. Joy Division represeted bleakness, New Order represented a new future.
Oasis represent proper Rock and Roll. Timeless.
You called them pre punk. That's the point I was making.I think you're missing the point. Joy Division represeted bleakness, New Order represented a new future.
Oasis represent proper Rock and Roll. Timeless.
You called them pre punk. That's the point I was making.
Wiggle wiggleYour definition of 'punk' probably differs from mine. There's always been 'punk' music I'm talking about punk as an attitude.
You can also say that people may have totally lost interest in them and their popularity may have waned. The fact they have not been together for 16 years has definitely contributed the increased interest in them coming back.They probably would be near the top of that list if they hadn't been apart for the past 16 years!
I wasn’t a regular back in the 90s as I was living in Fallowfield then but used to go there occasionally and to the Railway which was just half the width with a formica bar, and if I remember rightly was a Boddies pub back then. Can’t remember what beer the Midland sold but it was better known for being a drug den.No craft ale but back in the day you could buy anything in the Midland (before it became the trendy Met). I spent a lot of my mispent youth in there because my mate worked behind the bar and gave me free drinks. It was an interesting customer-base in those days to put it mildly. Burton Road was yet to be gentrified!
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I don’t disagree with any of that.
I’ve seen oasis before and I’m going to see them next week.
I’ve seen New Order several times too.
They’re different bands and comparing one to the other makes no sense whatsoever. That’s the point I was very clearly making.
Bravo!Zeitgeist.
New Order were born from music reflecting the gloomy, dark period of the late 1970s (Warsaw/Joy Division), and represented a brighter, modern technological world (Kraftwerk, Can, etc).
Before long, mamy bands (lucky enough to be signed by record companies) began to sound the same. As it was pre-punk, the big labels were deciding/determining what the public 'needed' to hear...
Alan McGee recognised that Oasis had the spirit of Rock and Roll and punk. Brash, fresh, and in your face. They were a million miles away from the polished, sterile, sound that record companies were promoting. Oasis were a kick up the arse... exactly what 1990s music needed.
Leap forward to 2025 and after 15 years of plastic, manufactured trash coming from the likes of X factor etc, the Gallagher brothers decide that the time is right to wake up a new generation of kids to Rock and Roll.
They don't even need to write new material... they've got a selection of songs that stand the test of time. They are The Beatles, they are Elvis, they are Led Zeppelin...
New Order...? Compared to Oasis, they're not even Freddie and the Dreamers.
We are witnessing musical history... A bunch of scruffs from Burnage really are one of the biggest bands in the world, ever.
Sit back, accept itfor what it is, and enjoy it.
And this bit...
"Gallagher brothers decide that the time is right to wake up a new generation of kids to Rock and Roll."
Gallagher Brothers decided the time was right for a massive amount of money to be paid into their bank accounts more like.
Beatlemania was more of a teenage girl thing. But it did happen all over the country everytime they played.
Comparing Oasis reforming and selling out a few stadiums to The Beatles isn't really the same.
Plus being on here might weight your opinion slightly!
My missus said Cardiff was like an out of body experience. Biblical. She's a big fan and was in the 90's. Was buzzing for days after. Still is now. Watching all the clips over and over. Obsessed!
None of my other close mates or family could give a flying fuck about Oasis. Then or now. Average band at best. If you break them down...singing? Not really singing is it, more of a whine. Competent guitar work. Same goes for the drums.
But I can understand the euphoria surrounding two Manchester born City supporting lads who made it big. That era of UK music passed me by as I was abroad for most of the 90's and they didn't really go global in the way they hit the heights in the UK.
Still...although I don't 'get' their music, I can understand how other people do.
Shame you didn’t make it to Knebworth. That was the best of all in my opinion (others are free to disagree)My 11th Oasis gig -
The first 5 were incredible but Friday night was right up there.
- Glastonbury 2nd stage mid afternoon - my ex is on my shoulder and Liam says ‘nice shirt love’ to her on the Channel 4 highlights
- T in Park 2nd stage early evening
- Manchester Academy
- Sheffield Arena supported by Pulp
- Maine Road - Sundays
- Glastonbury Pyramid headliner
- Loch Lomond
- Wembley Stadium (old)
- Heaton Park 2008
- Etihad Stadium
- Heaton Park 2025 - Friday first night
Wembley Stadium was probably the worst, band uninterested, loads of coked up twats fighting, with Heaton Park in 2008 not far behind it.
And?Yet here you are.