PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[mancboy]

But if we genuinely don't know the outcome then what assurances can we give them?

I see what you did there, well played sir

 

[chaddblue]

Would a company the size and stature of Puma be signing a deal like this if they thought City were in any real jeopardy?

No

 

[oakiecokie]

A blanket ban is incoming

Thats just pillow talk.

 

[bluelights72]

It's a pretty damning charge sheet but I think we've been fitted up.

its all pillow talk

 

[mcfcphil]

I tell you what I think , there is no fucking way that a Company like Puma would not wait a few months if there were any doubts about the 115 case . I just cant see it and the CEO has spoken so he is involved . I just can not see how City can convince them unless they can show Puma that they have won the case so City much know the results . I am just thinking this from the Puma perspective why would Puma sign this deal if any change of quilt ?
So you were right City know. But I still have doubts and will have until the verdict is out.
Fuck I have to continue working I hate this ........

I agree with most of what you say here, but playing devil’s advocate…

City is a highly-desirable brand for a kit manufacturer to have in the portfolio. If Puma took the opposite stance and decided against renewing then someone else would step in, whether that is Adidas, Nike or whoever.

Once you’ve lost that brand, you’re not getting it back for a decade due to the contract cycle.

Puma may well have balanced losing a jewel in their crown to a rival for the next 10 years against the likelihood of City being found guilty and decided it’s a risk worth taking.

In the event City are found guilty, I have no doubt Puma have ways to mitigate the situation. Conversely, if they let City move to a rival kit manufacturer, there is no way back once the 115 verdict lands and city are cleared.

 

[halfcenturyup]

I am sorry about that but I trust you thats why I asked , I am just so tired of this shit I want this to end . Someone to assure me that we are not quilty

I've said consistently for the last two years that the PL had no chance of proving the most serious allegations to the standard required even in the unlikely case that the club did what was alleged. That is still my view.

On the minor issues (Fordham, Touré and the rest) I find it hard to judge based on what information is available, but I am minded to believe Khaldoon on those.

Is that good enough?

 

[iwasthere1968]

Thats just pillow talk.

Can we stand by our beds again?

 

[bluemonkey71]

I agree with most of what you say here, but playing devil’s advocate…

City is a highly-desirable brand for a kit manufacturer to have in the portfolio. If Puma took the opposite stance and decided against renewing then someone else would step in, whether that is Adidas, Nike or whoever.

Once you’ve lost that brand, you’re not getting it back for a decade due to the contract cycle.

Puma may well have balanced losing a jewel in their crown to a rival for the next 10 years against the likelihood of City being found guilty and decided it’s a risk worth taking.

In the event City are found guilty, I have no doubt Puma have ways to mitigate the situation. Conversely, if they let City move to a rival kit manufacturer, there is no way back once the 115 verdict lands and city are cleared.

They were paying 65 million a season till 2029/30. So they are paying an extra 35 million a year till that point now and beyond. They could have waited a few years to renegotiate and by that time the results would be in. The deal has been extended to 2034/35 season so that implies we are getting 100 million a season immediately.

I'm taking that as hard signal personally. Hopefully I'm not wrong.

 

[MarcIsTired1986]

I agree with most of what you say here, but playing devil’s advocate…

City is a highly-desirable brand for a kit manufacturer to have in the portfolio. If Puma took the opposite stance and decided against renewing then someone else would step in, whether that is Adidas, Nike or whoever.

Once you’ve lost that brand, you’re not getting it back for a decade due to the contract cycle.

Puma may well have balanced losing a jewel in their crown to a rival for the next 10 years against the likelihood of City being found guilty and decided it’s a risk worth taking.

In the event City are found guilty, I have no doubt Puma have ways to mitigate the situation. Conversely, if they let City move to a rival kit manufacturer, there is no way back once the 115 verdict lands and city are cleared.

Also, the worst case scenario is a points deduction so big that we are guaranteed relegation to the Championship for the 2026/27 Season - and we'd be back in the Premier League for 2027/28! Puma don't have a lot to lose here.

 

[ToggieB]

Does it not strike anyone else that the FT article on BDO is being printed when we are (MAYBE) close to an announcement. If you read the FT article on their website, it's talking about assessments in the last 2 years (not relevant to the charges). It's almost like whoever “they” are is lining up articles and tweets etc, just so WHEN WE GRIND THEIR FACES INTO THE DIRT, which I am sure we will!. They can then carry on with the black arts campaign to discredit us at every turn. We'll never win that battle.

 

[mancboy]

I've said consistently for the last two years that the PL had no chance of proving the most serious allegations to the standard required even in the unlikely case that the club did what was alleged. That is still my view.

On the minor issues (Fordham, Touré and the rest) I find it hard to judge based on what information is available, but I am minded to believe Khaldoon on those.

Is that good enough?

Correct if you break it down you are taking the word of a number of multi billion pound organisations, scores of prominent businessman, 3 of the worlds leading audit companies, a royal family, a businessman doing trillion dollar deals with the usa and a government against an organisation that is headed up by its fourth choice candidate and that is so inept that it chose to argue with its own independent panel about calendar dates and still lost.

I know where my money lies.

 

[Silva2021]

In other news, Puma has just be brought by unknown Middle Eastern company!

 

[Bluewonder]

In other news, Puma has just be brought by unknown Middle Eastern company!

Make Shansour Limited?

 

[Champions again in 2012]

The good news about the Puma deal is that the clowns at the PL can't block it or assess it for FMV. I bet they're really pissed off

 

[oakiecokie]

its all pillow talk

Oi stop nicking my posts. ;)

 

[oakiecokie]

Can we stand by our beds again?

Yes but empty that chamber pot !!

 

[iwasthere1968]

Yes but empty that chamber pot !!

Windows on my side of bed, easy.

 

[Gazza]

Can we stand by our beds again?

There's four-posters on here that are in the know.

 

[mrbelfry]

I don't think that City would be anything but firm in their stance that we have offered irrefutable evidence if Puma asked so I don't think we can read anything in this about the actual decision being made. It could imply that the Puma execs trusted our execs though which is a positive but meaningless thing really in respect of the 115.

 

[oakiecokie]

Have you seen the price of there trainers these days think I'm gonna stick with my Dunlop green flash

I worked at the UK Distribution Depot for Dunlop Footwear for 23 years here in Winsford where I was both Customer Service Supervisor and Goods Inwards Foreman.
This is the truth but our Green Flash in its heyday was a massive seller and we did up to size 18 in that make. Seriously that is not a whopper its true a bastard size 18 with a massive box.