Russian invasion of Ukraine

This war has a WW1 quality to it; the frontline has been pretty static for months, and there appears to be no way either side can break he deadlock.
 
Zelenskyy:

A report by Commander-in-Chief Oleksandr Syrskyi. The frontline, our active and long-range operations on Russian territory.

Particular attention was given to the Pokrovsk direction — just over the past day alone, there were 51 intense combat engagements. Ukrainian units are defending their positions, and every elimination of occupiers is of great value. Our active operations in the Sumy region continue, and I am grateful to every unit that is gradually pushing Russian forces out.

I thanked the Commander-in-Chief for disrupting Russia’s plan for the Sumy region. Although this region remains one of the enemy’s priority directions, our forces consistently block Russian attempts to advance deeper into the Sumy region from the border areas. This week has also brought results in replenishing Ukraine’s “exchange fund.” We continue our actions on Russian territory as well.

Today, there was also a report from the Chief of the Defense Intelligence of Ukraine — I won’t disclose details, but the aggressor will feel everything exactly as needed.
 
BlueAnorak said:
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I wouldn’t disagree with this. Russia is increasingly reliant on China and is also a testing ground for Chinese weaponry and tech. Europe/Ukraine and Russia bleeding out on one side and on the other, the US reducing its own influence on the worlds financial and trade systems. China is challenging the US with its roll out of CIPs as an alternative to SWIFT, and being gifted the lead on clean energy tech.

Wouldn’t put it past China to give Ukraine a leg up now and then, either.
 
BlueAnorak said:
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A ‘victorious’ Russia would be discernibly weaker than the country that entered 2022, by various metrics.

The notion that the Russia that emerges from this shit show represents any meaningful threat to China is comical.

The trajectories of each nation is plainly heading in opposite directions.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
A ‘victorious’ Russia would be discernibly weaker than the country that entered 2022, by various metrics.

The notion that the Russia that emerges from this shit show represents any meaningful threat to China is comical.

The trajectories of each nation is plainly heading in opposite directions.
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Sort of agree.
However, so long as Russia doesn’t collapse - whatever the result, a Russia kept in the fight by China would emerge from the Ukraine war as a defacto junior client state of China.
I posted it as I thought it warranted discussion.
 
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BobKowalski said:
I wouldn’t disagree with this. Russia is increasingly reliant on China and is also a testing ground for Chinese weaponry and tech. Europe/Ukraine and Russia bleeding out on one side and on the other, the US reducing its own influence on the worlds financial and trade systems. China is challenging the US with its roll out of CIPs as an alternative to SWIFT, and being gifted the lead on clean energy tech.

Wouldn’t put it past China to give Ukraine a leg up now and then, either.
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Pretty much agree, so long as Russia doesn't collapse, China emerges as a winner without risk.
 
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