People trying to bring the government down, or just chaos?

[hilts]

75 million Americans voted against their own best interests for a lying criminal because they weren’t influenced at all by the media.

I'm sure a few were but yeah the yanks were never big on a bit of yee haw god bless America nationalism with a bit of racism thrown in,

They voted in an actor who shared a screen with a chimp.

Trump made them think like that.

Don't think we are gonna agree.somehow:-)

 

[Oldham Exile]

It’s not though is it, it’s completely logical. They know we are clamping down on Immigration, they know we are passing legislation and doing deals with France and the EU, now is the time to get here asap. I suspect many thousands will be desperate to get here before we have more tighter controls in place.

Wow - just wow

That has to be a deliberate joke surely?

 

[Oldham Exile]

Lolz at the sheer desperation and naivety of this.

Check the fucking numbers out ffs, it’s going from bad to worse!

Hmmm - or perhaps it is actually clever?

It can be used next month and the one after that and so on as the figures continue to increase

Nah - probably just sheer desperation and naivety

 

[Oldham Exile]

something which cannot be good for a persons health both mental and physical

says the fella who spends every evening trawling social media for negative news

 

[roubaixtuesday]

social media is generally politically neutral

Lol

 

[BlueHammer85]

Wow - just wow

That has to be a deliberate joke surely?

Here's some more jokes for you.

Arrests of illegal migrant workers increase by 51% in year since Labour elected

From 5 July 2024 - the day after Labour won the election - to 31 May 2025, 6,410 people have been arrested on suspicion of working illegally in the UK, according to Home Office figures.

news.sky.com

Home Office says record number of refused asylum seekers deported since July

Labour’s description of 16,400 ‘immigration offenders and foreign criminals’ angers campaigners

www.theguardian.com

More migrants removed from UK since Labour elected than in any six months since 2019, Home Office says

The Home Office has said it is "on track" to deliver on Labour's pledge to remove more migrants from the UK in its first six months in power than during any other six-month period since 2019. But the number of Channel crossings keeps rising.

news.sky.com

Labour’s ‘landmark’ Border Security, Asylum and Immigration Bill is published

74-page Bill introduced to the House of Commons and given its First Reading today

www.ein.org.uk

long way to go and reducing the boat crossings has to be the priority, however we can only do this with France help and once other bills through parliament have been enacted.

 

[Oldham Exile]

Absolutely, social media have brainwashed them completely imo.

Fuck - this is comedy gold - did you really post that to bluethrunthru ?

 

[Oldham Exile]

14 years of Tories.
1 year of Labour. they're doing more already.

I wonder how many times you've posted versions of that?

 

[BlueHammer85]

I wonder how many times you've posted that?

are you ok ?

 

[Bewar3them00n]

The majority of the media pushes a RW agenda, for instance: how many times has Farage been on QT, compared to say someone like Corbyn, who was an actual leader of a main political party, the difference is staggering Farage 36 times, Corbyn 1.
There’s a concerted effort to stoke up division fanned by an ever increasing RW Tory Party, Jenrick turned up at a recent anti immigrant protest.
While I think Labour’s stance on Palestine is an absolute disgrace, & their farcical arrest of peaceful protesters, while allowing wife beating racists to attack Police, shows how far out of touch they are with the majority, they have actually halved immigration back log, but that won’t fit the agendas pushed by Reform, Tommy Grifting-Cokehead, & The Tories.
But Labour haven’t helped themselves, they’ve alienated so many people, with their hand-wringing over Palestine, no doubt because of their links with The Friends of Isreal, their foot dragging & inaction is inexcusable, especially from Starmer “do you know I was a human rights lawyer”

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Got to say as bad as Labour are they are a damn sight better than the loonies we had before. At least we have some real politics happening.

I dunt care who it is, labour, Conservatives just so your fucking job.

 

[blueinsa]

Number of asylum seekers in hotels up 8% in past year, but falls slightly since March, new data shows

The total number of asylum claims hit 111,000 in the year ending in June 2025 - higher than the previous peak of 103,000 in 2002.

www.bbc.co.uk

Fucking useless as we all know.

Control? Smash the gangs?

It’s going from bad to worse

 

[hampshireblue]

Number of asylum seekers in hotels up 8% in past year, but falls slightly since March, new data shows

The total number of asylum claims hit 111,000 in the year ending in June 2025 - higher than the previous peak of 103,000 in 2002.

www.bbc.co.uk

Fucking useless as we all know.

Control? Smash the gangs?

It’s going from bad to worse

or:

As of June 2025, 90,812 people were awaiting an initial decision, down 17% on March and down almost 24% compared with the end of June 2024, just before the general election.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

or:

As of June 2025, 90,812 people were awaiting an initial decision, down 17% on March and down almost 24% compared with the end of June 2024, just before the general election.

Just post this after any cherry picked stat people post.

All they do is confirm their already held view and the 6 people that agree will like it.

On both sides of the debate.

 

[BobKowalski]

View attachment 166787

Just post this after any cherry picked stat people post.

All they do is confirm their already held view and the 6 people that agree will like it.

On both sides of the debate.

You’re going to be working overtime as we love a cherry picked stat on here :)

 

[hampshireblue]

View attachment 166787

Just post this after any cherry picked stat people post.

All they do is confirm their already held view and the 6 people that agree will like it.

On both sides of the debate.

I only posted it as it's on EXACTLY the same page as bluesinsa quoted, but he chose to ignore this bit.

 

[blueinsa]

or:

As of June 2025, 90,812 people were awaiting an initial decision, down 17% on March and down almost 24% compared with the end of June 2024, just before the general election.

More and more are coming in.

This government told us they would get control and reduce numbers.

The exact opposite is happening.

 

[blueinsa]

View attachment 166787

Just post this after any cherry picked stat people post.

All they do is confirm their already held view and the 6 people that agree will like it.

On both sides of the debate.

I cherry picked nothing, I posted a full link to the article.

By all means pretend it’s all beneath you and it doesn’t matter, the national debate surrounding this issue suggests you are in a minority I’m afraid.

Great use of numberwang though ;-)

 

[meltonblue]

I think they choose what to believe, confirmation bias. I'm not really sold on

If only they were as clever as me then they wouldn't fall for it argument.

I actually think that’s the biggest issue, but we’re a way away from being able to have a proper discussion about it. The Americanisation of our politics and the rhetoric of everyone fitting into left and right boxes has a long way to run yet, unfortunately. This thread is showing that in itself!

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

You’re going to be working overtime as we love a cherry picked stat on here :)

Exactly. The people post by them don’t even know they’re doing it.

They’re the real truth evangelists. Everyone else worships a false prophet.