PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

I find them a bit creepy, to be honest. It makes me feel uncomfortable.

Just to be clear, I do not have the need for someone to grip my hand like they want to break it but limp handshakes make me shudder.

When people do the "I'm so masculine and strong" handshake I tend to find them pathetic and insecure. The really limp "I'll touch your fingers loosely" one though makes me actually angry lol
 
I stayed in a hotel in Ohio on Monday & Tuesday, and the receptionist gave me room 321. I naturally asked if it had a Dusty Bin.
Did she give you a convoluted clue as to whether there was a dusty bin?

"The lady’s not for burning, we’ve let the fire go out,
Within the dying embers, you may see what it’s all about.”
 
I find them a bit creepy, to be honest. It makes me feel uncomfortable.

Just to be clear, I do not have the need for someone to grip my hand like they want to break it but limp handshakes make me shudder.
Personally I don’t shake any cunts hand,fuck knows where it’s been,bit of a germophobe….maybe I should move to Japan;)
 
I like it that people "check in".

Like the verdict will be out but nobody will bother to mention it anywhere on the news or social media or the pub, just in this thread

Well if the verdict is the only new thing that can possibly come next then why would anyone post? It works both ways.

Anyhow so it's not a pointless post I will add

I think we will be found to have done nothing wrong except not helping the premier league in the process.

There you go something no.one has said before:-)

* red tops cartel masters media
 
@slbsn has regularly made the assumption that 115/130 and APT aren’t directly linked but maybe we need the outcome of APT2 to be decided before some aspects of 115 can be fully resolved.
APT2 hasn’t even started. Even if it was theoretically true, the idea that a case from 2024 would await a decision on a case from 2025 to decide it, is obviously impossible. For one, the panel could never have submissions from the sides from APT1 or 2s decisions because they weren’t made at that point. In short, literally impossible.

And APT2 appears to be a much more discrete case relating to certain aspects of rules that weren’t even in place for any of the period charged in 115.
 
APT2 hasn’t even started. Even if it was theoretically true, the idea that a case from 2024 would await a decision on a case from 2025 to decide it, is obviously impossible. For one, the panel could never have submissions from the sides from APT1 or 2s decisions because they weren’t made at that point. In short, literally impossible.

And APT2 appears to be a much more discrete case relating to certain aspects of rules that weren’t even in place for any of the period charged in 115.

Sounds like a decision on Tuesday then..... ;)
 
APT2 hasn’t even started. Even if it was theoretically true, the idea that a case from 2024 would await a decision on a case from 2025 to decide it, is obviously impossible. For one, the panel could never have submissions from the sides from APT1 or 2s decisions because they weren’t made at that point. In short, literally impossible.

And APT2 appears to be a much more discrete case relating to certain aspects of rules that weren’t even in place for any of the period charged in 115.

Playing devil's advocate here for a minute.

Firstly, it is presumably possible that some APT-related issues were raised during the December hearing and they won't be clarified until after APT2? The first partial APT award was issued in September, after all.

Secondly, we have no idea what has actually been raised in the APT2 arbitration, do we? Isn't it possible that there is more to it than we think? Maybe the sloth-like nature of APT2 is due to the non-availabity of the arbitrators and this is why the PL has got bitchy with them in the new rules - because it's somehow holding up the 115 case?

Don't get me wrong, I think you are very probably right but I prefer explanations that have "rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty" (for those who get the reference) over those with firm conviction and the longer we wait, the more I am thinking that either the most serious matters in the 115 case have been especially closely contested, which I really can't imagine is possible, or there is something going on we don't know about ....

Probably bollocks again :)
 
Playing devil's advocate here for a minute.

Firstly, it is presumably possible that some APT-related issues were raised during the December hearing and they won't be clarified until after APT2? The first partial APT award was issued in September, after all.

Secondly, we have no idea what has actually been raised in the APT2 arbitration, do we? Isn't it possible that there is more to it than we think? Maybe the sloth-like nature of APT2 is due to the non-availabity of the arbitrators and this is why the PL has got bitchy with them in the new rules - because it's somehow holding up the 115 case?

Don't get me wrong, I think you are very probably right but I prefer explanations that have "rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty" (for those who get the reference) over those with firm conviction and the longer we wait, the more I am thinking that either the most serious matters in the 115 case have been especially closely contested, which I really can't imagine is possible, or there is something going on we don't know about ....

Probably bollocks again :)
There could be some overlap but the decisions in APT 1 case simply can’t form any part of the defence case because the decision relates to rules that all come after the period of the allegations. APT 2, even if it was directly relevant (and I don’t see how) hasn’t even been heard so there can be no possibility it could be pleaded or submitted as a defence with any dependency on APT2.

So we know for sure they aren’t waiting for APT 2.
 
There could be some overlap but the decisions in APT 1 case simply can’t form any part of the defence case because the decision relates to rules that all come after the period of the allegations. APT 2, even if it was directly relevant (and I don’t see how) hasn’t even been heard so there can be no possibility it could be pleaded or submitted as a defence with any dependency on APT2.

So we know for sure they aren’t waiting for APT 2.

Fair enough. You are probably right :)
 
According to a BBC article on Villa’s struggles, PSR was brought in to protect us.

Those supporters, more than any other in the division, feel they have been the victims of the competition's profit and sustainability rules, which they claim protect the 'big six' - Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham and Liverpool.
 
According to a BBC article on Villa’s struggles, PSR was brought in to protect us.

Those supporters, more than any other in the division, feel they have been the victims of the competition's profit and sustainability rules, which they claim protect the 'big six' - Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham and Liverpool.
You couldn’t make it up.
 
According to a BBC article on Villa’s struggles, PSR was brought in to protect us.

Those supporters, more than any other in the division, feel they have been the victims of the competition's profit and sustainability rules, which they claim protect the 'big six' - Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham and Liverpool.

BBC is the UK equivalent of Pravda
 
According to a BBC article on Villa’s struggles, PSR was brought in to protect us.

Those supporters, more than any other in the division, feel they have been the victims of the competition's profit and sustainability rules, which they claim protect the 'big six' - Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham and Liverpool.
They are correct, the rules do protect those six teams.

But they were only introduced to protect some of them.
 

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