United Thread | 2025/26

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Reading SadCafe and they still don't get it.

Like I ranted about on here some 6 months ago, their issue is that United from the bottom to the top doesn't understand what club they have become. They still talk about "van Gaal failing, Solskjaer failing, Ten Hag failing, Mourinho failing"

No, you lost the golden goose and your club stopped being a club that can expect titles. Accept it. Only when you accept that fact you can start to actually improve the culture within your cancerous club. Only then can you understand that you could have put your arrogance aside when you were fighting for top 4 and some FA Cups and actually accepted that this is a pretty good place to be for a club like them. But they constantly wanted to burn it all down (half-heartedly) because their imbecile gloryhynting fanbase demanded the stimulation the Ferguson years gave them. So the reward for that became false-dawn cultural resets with out of their depth amateur league managers that their fanbase basically demanded (because they had tried everything else and they "failed") that slowly developed top 6 teams into a team that for the last 2(!!!!!!) season has delivered an expected points total that would put them around 15th in the table.

It is a club that deserves all they get. I wish relegation for them, but the only problem is I think it would genuinly be good for them.

Like I posted here last season, what they genuinly need is a proper "cultural reset" from top to bottom. They need to accept that they are mid-table club and will have to build stone for stone. If Amorim get them inside the top 8 again it is a miracle. What they really need is a Moyes type of manager that can establish them in the top 6 for years again and make them a team that can compete consistently at that end of the table and then take the next step when they have achieved that. But they don't have the patience for it. Any manager that comes close to improving on the shit the last one served gets 1 additional year to get them close to a title and then the cycle repeats. Even having the PSR leeway to steal the best players from your 13th placed rivals means fuck all when you look at the squads in the real top 6 now. And the teams around them have actually accepted where they are, so are years ahead of them in preparing for that kind of situation. It is kind of poetic though that Moyes was totally the wrong manager 11 years ago but now he is the right one. They don't understand the severity of their fall. They pretend they do, but they don't
 
Here's the thing.
I genuinely think that United are entering into a phase that could last for years, and even decades. Oh, they'll pick up the odd League Cup here and there (but not this season, haha…), maybe even an F.A. Cup, but they won't get near being PL champions, I believe, and we won't even talk about the CL.
When a cartload of money flowed into the game — that was the whole point of the PL — and when the concept of worldwide marketing of a football club “brand” got going, in the early nineties, they were the chief beneficiaries. They also had, exceptionally, a good crop of youth players come through at the same time — let's admit that, although they were probably made to look better than they were — and an authoritarian manager (tough love father-figure type in the mould of a much earlier model, going back to the fifties and sixties, Nicholson, Shankly et al.) who suited that crop of youngsters perfectly, and who was, I believe, the last of that kind that we'll see, because the game is very different now. They didn't actually have a lot of competition. Yes, Arsenal emerged from 1996 onwards when Wenger arrived, and then in 2003 when Abramovich bought Chelsea, and above all brought in Mourinho the following year, Chelsea sort of took over Arsenal's role.
Arsenal and Chelsea are still around as big guns, there's us — we're not going anywhere, whatever blips there may be on the way, and yes that will continue after Pep, I believe, the structure is just too solidly in place, and it's been exceptionally well planned — Liverpool's fortunes have revived in a big way, and there's a bunch of clubs just behind, knocking on the door of top six, maybe even top four.
As for Manchester and Greater Manchester, which includes Trafford Park, the power structure has been reversed, and I believe for a long, long time to come. Sure, they'll beat us at their gaff from time to time, even at the Etihad. As we did from time to time — people forget that — even in our darkest years. It was occasionally our “consolation match”, as it is now theirs.
There is a new order in football, and there has been these last twelve years or so. The media can yack its mantra on and on (and the people yacking are very often former United players, of course). They are not part of it.
 
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northendenton said:
Flying pig not really funny now,more embarrassing,same,same,same convoluted shit.
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I thought when he got the printer and held it up against the back of the chair so he could punch it … “Is this an act?”

Of course it is. Mind you if we’d heard from his wife/mother/partner complaining about the noise again, that would have been funny.
 
The only downside to all of this is. After decades of working amongst rag fans, years of abuse and piss taking. Us in division 2 as they won the treble.

The one that has really pissed me of the the last decade is i dont know one fucking rag, not one.
All the plastic i see around put their shirts back in the cupboard.

I have decades of shit i want to give back to these knobheads and yet I dont know any. No one at work is rag, all I can do is laugh when ever I see a plastic in a rag shirt.

I have seen a rag who works in Tesco because he has a rag tattoo. I'll ask him if the have any fish from Grimsby.
 
northendenton said:
Flying pig not really funny now,more embarrassing,same,same,same convoluted shit.
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"OH MY GOD No....! No! Oh we've been done like a kipper, mate! We're Harry Ramsden's FC! Amorim is a fish out of water! We're finished! Insert other rehearsed reaction to a goal here!"

He's as fake as they come. Rehearsed reactions to get clicks.
 
give it to gordon said:
The only downside to all of this is. After decades of working amongst rag fans, years of abuse and piss taking. Us in division 2 as they won the treble.

The one that has really pissed me of the the last decade is i dont know one fucking rag, not one.
All the plastic i see around put their shirts back in the cupboard.

I have decades of shit i want to give back to these knobheads and yet I dont know any. No one at work is rag, all I can do is laugh when ever I see a plastic in a rag shirt.

I have seen a rag who works in Tesco because he has a rag tattoo. I'll ask him if the have any fish from Grimsby.
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One rag, an ex manager who have me crap for years is still in contact with me, I give it him mercilessly over and over and won’t stop. He now has no retort at all, every now and again when we gift them a point or 3 in the derby he’ll msg me but it doesn’t last.
I’ve been relentless since fatty missed the penalty last night. One thought in my mind, the banner that he used to continually send pictures of. Karma at its best
 
ScottSinclair said:
Reading SadCafe and they still don't get it.

Like I ranted about on here some 6 months ago, their issue is that United from the bottom to the top doesn't understand what club they have become. They still talk about "van Gaal failing, Solskjaer failing, Ten Hag failing, Mourinho failing"

No, you lost the golden goose and your club stopped being a club that can expect titles. Accept it. Only when you accept that fact you can start to actually improve the culture within your cancerous club. Only then can you understand that you could have put your arrogance aside when you were fighting for top 4 and some FA Cups and actually accepted that this is a pretty good place to be for a club like them. But they constantly wanted to burn it all down (half-heartedly) because their imbecile gloryhynting fanbase demanded the stimulation the Ferguson years gave them. So the reward for that became false-dawn cultural resets with out of their depth amateur league managers that their fanbase basically demanded (because they had tried everything else and they "failed") that slowly developed top 6 teams into a team that for the last 2(!!!!!!) season has delivered an expected points total that would put them around 15th in the table.

It is a club that deserves all they get. I wish relegation for them, but the only problem is I think it would genuinly be good for them.

Like I posted here last season, what they genuinly need is a proper "cultural reset" from top to bottom. They need to accept that they are mid-table club and will have to build stone for stone. If Amorim get them inside the top 8 again it is a miracle. What they really need is a Moyes type of manager that can establish them in the top 6 for years again and make them a team that can compete consistently at that end of the table and then take the next step when they have achieved that. But they don't have the patience for it. Any manager that comes close to improving on the shit the last one served gets 1 additional year to get them close to a title and then the cycle repeats. Even having the PSR leeway to steal the best players from your 13th placed rivals means fuck all when you look at the squads in the real top 6 now. And the teams around them have actually accepted where they are, so are years ahead of them in preparing for that kind of situation. It is kind of poetic though that Moyes was totally the wrong manager 11 years ago but now he is the right one. They don't understand the severity of their fall. They pretend they do, but they don't
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Very similar analysis on my side. There is cognitive dissonance going on. They believe so strongly that they are what they were, that they simply cannot see what they are. Thus, they go after quick fix after quick fix. This illusion is compounded and stoked by the relentless cheerleading from the media in England and worldwide (Keane is a rare exception to that, I have to give him his due) that is willing,nay yearning for “United to be back”. It's good for clicks, it's good for viewing figures — shit, it's just good for business. But it is not so.
They really do dwell in the theatre of dreams.
 
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