PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[117 M34]

Will all 3 of the panel members write the report up together or will they split it out and write parts each to save time?

 

[Blue Since 76]

Will all 3 of the panel members write the report up together or will they split it out and write parts each to save time?

The first member writes one word before carefully folding the paper to hide it and then posting it to the next panel member for the next word to be added. That's what they're planning on doing for all 200,000 words, so shouldn't take too long although the PL's stamp bill is going to bankrupt clubs already in debt

 

[bluwes]

Writing up a decision is a lengthy process, however if the decision is still ongoing then I can’t see it being the best of news.

The common consensus on here (despite nobody having a single clue) is that we’ve wiped the floor with the PL for one reason or another. But if deliberations are still ongoing, with the panel yet to come to a verdict then we clearly haven’t.

That’s not to say we won’t win if that’s the case of course.

Deliberations were finalised long ago. It’s the writing up that’s taking the time

 

[WestGorton]

Only the panel know what and when. The first thing we will know is the release of decision and accompanying statement.

 

[deano ou812]

Probably making sure it’s watertight with no errors before the final release,those thinking it’s bad news the longer it goes on,well think of the reverse and how the panel is wording it as the premier have been caught bang to rights colluding with other teams against City ..

 

[johnnytapia]

Incredible really. Nearly 3 years and not one solitary person is closer to knowing if we’re fucked or not. No ITK, nothing. Nada.
3 years of nothing but pure speculation.
You could have started this thread on day 1 of the charges being announced, locked the thread, opened it today and nothing, absolutely nothing will have changed in terms of any of us being any wiser.

 

[hihosilva]

Probably making sure it’s watertight with no errors before the final release,those thinking it’s bad news the longer it goes on,well think of the reverse and how the panel is wording it as the premier have been caught bang to rights colluding with other teams against City ..

That's all very well but the panel are not investigating the PL

 

[manimanc]

Time yourself writing out the following.

Not Guilty.
Guilty.

The first one takes longer.

Thank me later.

 

[Blue Lemon]

Still think it's going to announced by Gary Neville, wearing zebra pants, halfway up a lampost whilst ripping down a union flag.

You should ask Jim'll Paint it to draw that for you.

 

[JewelZee]

Let me just say it. I have been very bullish regarding us being cleared. But if we are found guilty I will be crushed. I'm not going to sugar coat it. I will be broken hearted. Convervesly, when we win I will celebrate like a mad man. The champagne will flow...

 

[halfcenturyup]

It is still happening. I can think of at least 2 examples in the last few days both on here and elsewhere. It is all nonsense. Pannick himself wasn't lying - the parties don't know what the decision says. Anyone suggesting that they have heard anything more than impressions from the hearing (and even those appear to be quite weak and cautious as well as held differently on both sides) is making it up.

NB: that was the position at the end of last week. I don't know if its been received since then.

Why the compulsion to be seen to be right all the time?

Can you at least accept that the only thing you know for a fact is what your sources have told you? You have no way of knowing whether your sources know everything or whether they have simply told you what they want you to hear.

Fwiw, even though I am always suspicious of statements of fact from anybody these days, I think you are probably right, even after all this time, in your assessment of what you have been told. But is there not even a scintilla of thought in your mind that there may be more going on?

Nb: If you reply in a dismissive, obsessive manner, it will only make my question the more relevant :)

 

[halfcenturyup]

Agreed. I wonder if the length of time it is taking is why the PL tightened up their rules on how such panels operate in terms of allocating their workloads on other cases which clash with the PL work,

The new rules on tightening up time allocation were in respect of Section X arbitrations were they not, where the parties choose the arbitrators? This is a Section W disciplinary procedure, so it's the fucking PL who chose the panel members (well, their "independent" panel chairman - who they appointed - cough, cough) so surely they can't have a problem with that?

 

[ChicagoBlue]

You could have started this thread on day 1 of the charges being announced (Fill in the blank), locked the thread, opened it today and nothing, absolutely nothing will have changed in terms of any of us being any wiser.

You could copy and paste that to nearly every thread and it would work! ;-)

 

[dickie davies]

how quiet it is makes me think after premier league said in future there needs be a time scale that they havent even started writting up yet

I reckon they've forgotten to write it up and it's sat on a desk somewhere

 

[Coatigan]

I still think a whole heap of folk have gotten off lightly after blagging the outcome months and months ago to flog their own merchandise, drive interactions to their businesses and own pages etc

Whether you're tense or not, nervous or confident, it's not really a matter to be taken lightly in the context of the entire club to say the least. Especially if people just pretend to know something they clearly don't because they know others will want to believe it.

They got off far more lightly than those that even slightly questioned their bullshit. Which they still peddle btw.

 

[KS55]

They got off far more lightly than those that even slightly questioned their bullshit. Which they still peddle btw.

As one of the judges was saying to me in the pub yesterday………..

 

[spinney]

So do we think that the decision hasn't been reached yet which is why no announcement, if so why the fuck not, and if the decision has been reached then why the need to hold it back, nothing makes sense

Some while back it was said ( on here ) that after the announcement that won't be the end of things because the loser was bound to appeal , I wonder if the delay now is due to a kind of arbitration going on in the background so that when the announcement does come it will really be the end of the matter ( hopefully ! ! )

 

[deano ou812]

That's all very well but the panel are not investigating the PL

Of course not,but over the course of this whole investigation into City,could it possibly transpire that there is evidence of collusion between clubs and premier league (with these emails and other documents that city’s team requested apparently from the premier league)how is that dealt with in regards to the charges against City and if it is a possibility..

 

[halfcenturyup]

Of course not,but over the course of this whole investigation into City,could it possibly transpire that there is evidence of collusion between clubs and premier league (with these emails and other documents that city’s team requested apparently from the premier league)how is that dealt with in regards to the charges against City and if it is a possibility..

I suppose it would only be dealt with in the award if it was raised as a defence by the club (in the case that such evidence exists). I am sure they didn't need to do that to counter the allegations.

But could they have raised the argument in defence so it has to be laid out in the reasoning for the award, as a tactic? Possibly. Would that be "embarrassing" for the PL? Definitely. Would it cause a delay whilst negotiations are in place to minimise and settle damage? Maybe, but unlikely would be my guess.

Could it give rise to a separate action against the PL by the club? I would suggest yes?

Just my opinions. I know fuck all :)

 

[mancboy]

Some while back it was said ( on here ) that after the announcement that won't be the end of things because the loser was bound to appeal , I wonder if the delay now is due to a kind of arbitration going on in the background so that when the announcement does come it will really be the end of the matter ( hopefully ! ! )

If city lose of course they will appeal, if the pl lose and they choose to appeal it will confirm that it is a witch hunt against city, the pl should be glad to lose as it shows that their processes are correct and working and that the most successful club and the flagship of their product for the past ten years has been fantastically well run.