The Labour Government

He’s like Farage. Both gone too early. 3.5 years to go and they’ve both been found out already.
That’s a nice little coping mechanism you’ve developed there. Peculiar, but still nice in a very naive, childish kind of way.

Nobody has had to have a go at this government yet, let alone go too early, because they’ve done it all to themselves.

They thought it couldn’t get any worse in the summer and since then they’ve served up Rayner, Mandelson and this China spy case where the government has constantly placed itself in knots. Time and again they show they’re incapable of getting on top of an issue and getting their story straight. Nobody could have done a better job at undermining them than they’ve done themselves.
 
That’s a nice little coping mechanism you’ve developed there. Peculiar, but still nice in a very naive, childish kind of way.

Nobody has had to have a go at this government yet, let alone go too early, because they’ve done it all to themselves.

They thought it couldn’t get any worse in the summer and since then they’ve served up Rayner, Mandelson and this China spy case where the government has constantly placed itself in knots. Time and again they show they’re incapable of getting on top of an issue and getting their story straight. Nobody could have done a better job at undermining them than they’ve done themselves.
Mate, me and the vast majority of others tuned out from you a while back.

You lack any form of objectivity and cherry pick “facts”.

My guess is that you tried to get a job at the Spectator, but you were turned down for being too partisan.
 
As I said, you’re simply parroting whatever LBC broadcasts and now you’ve just confirmed it. Thanks.

Also, as useless as Badenoch is, her comments in PMQs yesterday have been proved to be largely correct by the release last night of the witness statements submitted by Collins.

There’s a clear shift in tone between the first statement submitted under the last government and then the two which followed under Labour, with the third statement of course lifting text directly from the Labour Party manifesto.

It really is pretty comical to argue that there’s been no political influence on the evidence submitted by Collins when the bloke has quoted directly from the Labour manifesto.

More lies and bluster from this government. Quelle surprise!
Says the bloke who pretty much quoted his best pal Kimi. "Why he expects anyone to believe a word he says". Only she managed to involve Jeffrey Epstein in the same question.

You may not like LBC, but over the course of the day they are pretty well balanced. But I guess being such a Left Wing hater, balance doesn't really work for you does it? I'm sure GBNews is more up your street.

BKB
 
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In fairness the govt could do something about ofwat and water industry in general, they have mentioned trying to halt the continuous increase in household bills. Gas electric and water are a big part of it.
I agree but it takes time to unravel an industry that has been in private hands for so long.
 

Probably unrelated from the spy case.
The UK’s Keir Starmer won power last year with a to-do list longer than Harry Styles’s One Direction-era hair, but reviving the British economy was right there up the top.

So when he met China’s Xi Jinping on the sidelines of the G20 last year, sure, Starmer raised Hong Kong’s detained pro-democracy media mogul Jimmy Lai, but he swiftly also dispatched his own Chancellor of the Exchequer to Beijing with verbiage around his government’s “commitment to explore deeper economic co-operation.”

But then the diplomats got in the way.

Okay record scratch. Not exactly, but embassies are involved.

It all started with the 1648 Peace of Westphalia Beijing’s long-planned “mega embassy” on the site of the old Royal Mint, near the Tower of London. It’s a sprawling complex that’d be 10x China’s current embassy and the biggest embassy anywhere in Europe, hence the apparent requirement for every British headline to add ‘mega’.

But the project has sat in limbo since 2022, when local officials blocked planning permission over security and community concerns. Those concerns you ask?

The building drawings showed several areas “redacted for security reasons”, implying some kind of intelligence asset or activity

The complex itself is located right above sensitive fibre-optic cables near London’s financial district (pssst, espionage)

Neighbours voiced unhappiness about all the inevitable traffic and protests, and

The broader public voiced unease at British heritage being handed over to China.

Side bar, but it’s odd China redacted its building plans. Every country that can spy, does spy. And ordinarily you just make up a cover-story for whichever part of the embassy you plan to jam full of spies and listening gear: oh, that vast, windowless, heavily fortified floor up there? Haha nothing to worry about, just the sauna!

Anyway, the local council then blocked China’s embassy plans again in 2024.

So the decision has now climbed all the way up to the (new) housing secretary, who’s attempting to stick to a 21 October deadline. And he’s in a real bind:

China is peeved given it paid a cool £255m for the property back in 2018, and has been burning more cash every year it’s been stuck in development purgatory. Beijing is now arguing the UK is breaching its obligations under the Vienna Convention (which regulates how countries treat diplomats/embassies).

And the US is losing patience, too: successive White Houses have warned the UK about this embassy, partly on intelligence-sharing concerns: the ‘five eyes’ () arrangement is only as strong as its weakest link, and a vast London compound hoovering up every byte of data might weaken the UK link. But the US also realistically wants allies onboard in countering an increasingly assertive China.

Anyway, take your pick, Keir: keep the US happy, or keep China happy, though your economic recovery realistically involves figuring out how to keep them both happy.

And while he works on that, it’s all metastasizing into a political problem for Starmer on two fronts. First, tabloids report that China has periodically halted the water supply for British diplomats over in Beijing! That, together with China slow-walking its approval for the UK’s own embassy upgrade in Beijing, looks like a classic reciprocal pressure tactic.

But second, UK prosecutors also just abruptly dropped an explosive case against two British men both called Christopher (Christopher²) accused of spying for China, with Starmer facing claims the case collapsed after his government avoided labelling China an “enemy” in testimony.

The two tales combined are feeding into opposition claims that he’s ✌️weak on China✌️.

He’s sent his foreign office chief (Olly Robbins) to Beijing in an upcoming visit billed as routine, but the timing could not be worse.

Anyway, that’s how the most boring diplomatic work — embassy construction paperwork — has turned into the latest proxy front for East-West relations.
 
It does but as there are still post office staff awaiting payment im not overly optimistic it will be anytime this century.
I think it depends which compensation scheme a claimant is under, but I agree it does seem to be taking too long:

The Post Office has several compensation schemes for victims of the Horizon IT scandal, including the Horizon Shortfall Scheme (HSS) for those affected by financial shortfalls, the Group Litigation Order (GLO) Scheme for specific legal case participants, and the Horizon Convictions Redress Scheme (HCRS) for those with overturned convictions. There are also separate schemes for those impacted by the older Capture system and other issues. Payments have been made, and a new Capture Redress Scheme was expected to open in late 2025, while the deadline for new applications to the HSS is January 31, 2026
 
Labour had 14 years to get ready for government and they’ve shit the bed in the first 12 months. Get over it.

They had a smidge over 4 years. Starmer was elected leader in April 2024 - from then he assembled a team and began on policy.

If you believe your 14 years bollocks then you'd believe Mayday, Johnson, Truss, and Sunak all followed Cameron's philosophy. Thats not how it works and you know it but if you want to think that and share with the room don't be surprised when the stupidity of the position is returned to you
 
They had a smidge over 4 years. Starmer was elected leader in April 2024 - from then he assembled a team and began on policy.

If you believe your 14 years bollocks then you'd believe Mayday, Johnson, Truss, and Sunak all followed Cameron's philosophy. Thats not how it works and you know it but if you want to think that and share with the room don't be surprised when the stupidity of the position is returned to you
You’re forgetting BKB
 
these are not football teams - the illogical, slavish unquestioning support for these parties and their (failed) policies – mainly because they ain't the other side – is embarrassing
 
They had a smidge over 4 years. Starmer was elected leader in April 2024 - from then he assembled a team and began on policy.

If you believe your 14 years bollocks then you'd believe Mayday, Johnson, Truss, and Sunak all followed Cameron's philosophy. Thats not how it works and you know it but if you want to think that and share with the room don't be surprised when the stupidity of the position is returned to you
Doesn’t matter whether it’s four or fourteen years - they’ve still shit the bed in spectacular fashion.

Have a nice evening.
 
these are not football teams - the illogical, slavish unquestioning support for these parties and their (failed) policies – mainly because they ain't the other side – is embarrassing
100% this but, worse than that, it emboldens governments and politicians to be absolutely shit safe in the knowledge that a shed load of ideologues will vote for them anyway
 
They had a smidge over 4 years. Starmer was elected leader in April 2024 - from then he assembled a team and began on policy.

If you believe your 14 years bollocks then you'd believe Mayday, Johnson, Truss, and Sunak all followed Cameron's philosophy. Thats not how it works and you know it but if you want to think that and share with the room don't be surprised when the stupidity of the position is returned to you
True enough but it was April 2020 by the way - guessing that was a typo though ;)

Anyway, what the fuck do we know? BKB of course
 
I didn't suggest collusion.The Tesco example does seem to be blatant profiteering on the back of the NI increase that they are so adamant is affecting their business detrimentally.

The problem is that Tesco would soon lose customers if this was a profit motivated issue. Of course customers are habitual and may well not look around but after a time they will. Take mince beef as a prime example, gone up 50% in price in the last year at all supermarkets, if it’s not collusion then the price rises (aka inflation) are legitimate.
 
The problem is that Tesco would soon lose customers if this was a profit motivated issue. Of course customers are habitual and may well not look around but after a time they will. Take mince beef as a prime example, gone up 50% in price in the last year at all supermarkets, if it’s not collusion then the price rises (aka inflation) are legitimate.
It depends what options people have. For example, this town has a smallish Tesco a ,ile out of town and a smallish Waitrose bang in the centre. There are no other major supermarkets within a 10 mile radius, a few Co-ops but that's about it. There is nowhere for the townfolk to go. We are lucky that we can afford the 2 independant butchers that are now only slightly more expensive than the supermarkets anyway and most of their produce is local, but not everyone can.

There's no doubt that food inflation is a reality as we all know. My point is, some organisations who are shouting loudest about the NI rises are at the very same time using it as an opportunity to increase their profit margins.
 
Doesn’t matter whether it’s four or fourteen years - they’ve still shit the bed in spectacular fashion.

Have a nice evening.
Well it does matter doesn't it, especially in your case when you are so critical of others when it comes to an alternative view to BKB?

As it is, your lot shit the bed for 14 years and Labour have indeed left some skidders on the sheets for 14 months.

Unfortunately most of your sheets needed throwing away, the ones with skidders only need to go to the laundrette.
 
genuinely in your opinion.

what party would have done better than Labour this past year ?

what PM would have been better than Starmer this past year ?

The answer to that is quite simple; anyone and no one. They have made unforced mistakes, it is impossible to say if another government would have made more or less mistakes and if those mistakes would have lesser or greater impact.
 

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