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Brewster's millions said:
Childcare isn’t free - people are paying ever higher taxes to fund it all - and this government’s policies have kept interest tates at a higher level than they otherwise would be.

If that’s the Labour pitch then it’s no wonder their vote was eviscerated last night.
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You really have lost it.

No-one's paying higher taxes (so far). Labour cuts the Tories / Trussonomics interest rates from 5.25% to 4% in their first year and you think "well, it should have been more". This is taking BKBism to new heights.
 
blueinsa said:
Enough of being gaslighted Vic.

I’m sure you will get the answers you seek when you knock on doors.
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Gaslit. But what lights are flickering in your mind?

It's not been that bad on the doorstep. For every Reform voter (some reasonable, some not, some racist) there's another saying "Got to keep them out". And that will be just the tactical voting that works. Would you really vote for a Green or Independent candidate (and most "independent" candidates aren't) that can't win and help Reform win the seat?
 
Vic said:
Gaslit. But what lights are flickering in your mind?

It's not been that bad on the doorstep. For every Reform voter (some reasonable, some not, some racist) there's another saying "Got to keep them out". And that will be just the tactical voting that works. Would you really vote for a Green or Independent candidate (and most "independent" candidates aren't) that can't win and help Reform win the seat?
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how long before Reform whilst fielding "paper candidates" also field independents so in the event of any of them winning they can immediately "join" Reform?
 
bluethrunthru said:
how long before Reform whilst fielding "paper candidates" also field independents so in the event of any of them winning they can immediately "join" Reform?
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Happening already at local (parish) level (but that's been Tory tactics too). It's reasonable to want a parish council of "independents" but most candidates have political preferences.

(I know of one Cornwall parish council where the politics is between Cornish farmers and wealthy incomers / second home owners.)
 
Vic said:
Happening already at local (parish) level (but that's been Tory tactics too). It's reasonable to want a parish council of "independents" but most candidates have political preferences.

(I know of one Cornwall parish council where the politics is between Cornish farmers and wealthy incomers / second home owners.)
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can't they all come together under the banner "git orrrfff moi laaaand " as a slogan?
 
blueinsa said:
Clearly not.

All the polls and results of late tells me what you’re saying is true.
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You must have missed the table someone recently posted.

Labour lost the Broadheath by-election to the Tories last week - but it was a higher turnout than the full election last year. Labour still came second and more Labour votes went to the Lib Dems (3rd) than Reform (4th).
(Oh, and Green and Independent didn't get a look in.)

I know why I'm desperate to be right that Reform have shot their bolt. Why are you so desperate to big them up?
 
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bluethrunthru said:
can't they all come together under the banner "git orrrfff moi laaaand " as a slogan?
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Not really. It came to a head as a tenant farmer wanted to build his own house on his land (which he'd bought for the purpose). Farmers supported him, rich incomer raised the £10k for a judicial review and won to quash the planning consent.
 
Vic said:
Not really. It came to a head as a tenant farmer wanted to build his own house on his land (which he'd bought for the purpose). Farmers supported him, rich incomer raised the £10k for a judicial review and won to quash the planning consent.
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well if it was going to spoil his view ................. fucking NIMBY
 
bluethrunthru said:
people bigging this shit show up need to give their heads a wobble - Farage didn't even turn up for the count - he knew they were losing so he ran away - meanwhile at a more local level

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Did the Nazis win Milton and Tamarside?

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Hopefully their vote has peaked at around 30%, still too high and will hopefully drop off over the next few years but whatever, and the other 70% are so against what they are, and will do whatever it takes to to keep them out. Seems that may be becoming a thing.
 
Vic said:
You really have lost it.

No-one's paying higher taxes (so far). Labour cuts the Tories / Trussonomics interest rates from 5.25% to 4% in their first year and you think "well, it should have been more". This is taking BKBism to new heights.
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Taxes haven’t increased and the Labour government has cut interest rates?

You truly are the gift that keeps on giving Victor.
 
blueparrot said:
Hopefully their vote has peaked at around 30%, still too high and will hopefully drop off over the next few years but whatever, and the other 70% are so against what they are, and will do whatever it takes to to keep them out. Seems that may be becoming a thing.
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They have 4 years to convince people they can run a country - in 6 months they have 4 county councils they are running that are falling to bits and failing to meet their goals with councillors under Police investigations and their ex-Wales leader facing jail for being a Russian agent and accepting bribes - I think we can take a steady fall as a given
 
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