I’m not rowing about it I’m just staggered by your view, as you may be with mine. I try and be unbiased but the lunge on Phil was a goal wherever it took place, including the area, IMHO of courseThe shot was off before the challenge. In relative terms, way before.
It’s Monday now though and I’d talked about this during the game. Like arseholes though, we’ve all got opinions, and fair enough if that’s yours. Not going to row about it.
My quote at the time was along the lines of he was fucking offside as fuck.I’m not rowing about it I’m just staggered by your view, as you may be with mine. I try and be unbiased but the lunge on Phil was a goal wherever it took place, including the area, IMHO of course
Edit I was there on Saturday and couldn’t watch it back yesterday. Out of interest did you also not think their winner was offside? I’ve not seen the alleged handball back yet
Obviously!
It must come as a hell of a shock to newly appointed PL refs who have spent there entire careers being the best at applying the rules of the game to arrive at the pinnacle of the sport and find out it's all corrupt against one specific team. Who is it that pulls them to one side and informs them by the way?
The red line is further forward than the blue line so offside ?
Where is the rule that a foul isn’t a penalty when this happens ?My quote at the time was along the lines of he was fucking offside as fuck.
I’m not staggered by your view, it’s simply just your view. I can see it from both ways, but for me if a shot is already released but a foul comes after, I can’t see how a penalty can be given. I can see how it would be given as a foul in any other area of the pitch, but in the box it has to be different in that unique scenario. The defender got lucky.
Its simple although maybe not official. You take someone out on the halfway line you take him out of the game for a period of time. The ball is in play.Where is the rule that a foul isn’t a penalty when this happens ?
We would of won the game if we put our chances awayOf course it was unfair we were the better team and would have won the game if the ref did his job.
I agree, we should absolutely be filing some form of formal complaint. The officiating in the match was nothing short of corrupt. Unfortunately, I don't believe it will amount to any changes going forward.They should absolutely be doing it IMO - this wouldn't be dipperesque sour grapes (one thing that doesn't go their way in amongst a sea of favourable decisions), city were thoroughly shafted on Saturday and it needs highlighting and forced into the media. It won't change the result, but it might make the cheating twats be not so so brazen in future matches.
Should have been a redChallenge on Foden should of been a pen,could quite easily broke his leg,as for the offside the line isn’t parallel to the 18 yard box,as for the vertical one with the cartoon,Walt Disney would of been proud of that cartoon
How does taking it in the ass make us better? Just asking...Can't we leave that sort of stuff to the mard arse sore losers? I like to think we're better than that
Joelinton's gratuitous foul on Bernardo not resulting in a yellow was insane.It wasn't three, it was around ten
In addition to the three you've mentioned, there were numerous border line yellow card fouls committed by Newcastle and not only were no yellow cards shown for any, the bent bastard didn't even give a yellow for persistent fouling
Pep publicly flogged himself and the media's response was to pile on...as if with everything that went on in that game Pep grabbing that guy's camera was the most pertinent event. What more needs to be said...'I feel embarrassed and ashamed' - Guardiola apologises to cameraman after confrontation.
Guy makes a beeline for Pep to shove a camera in his face to antagonise him and Pep's saying sorry. You'll be waiting a long time to get the club sticking up for itself.
The two are mutually exclusive.All this is just a smoke screen. We should be focussing on Haaland having a blank day and Foden missing sitters. And our defence consistently allowing gilt edge chances.
Unfortunately the club just bend over and take it time after time.
Pep was furious at full-time but his bosses won't support him.
Too scared to rock the boat Unfortunately.
OR if the game was officiated properly...imagine that.We would of won the game if we put our chances away
Var is shite, its just another layer of incompetence. I would rather the ref just made his decision and that's it like it used to be. We gained last week when Liverpool had one struck off for nothing. Both decisions at Newcastle were marginal. Once you get your shot off refs rarely give you a penalty. And the offside uses technology so you got to go with the tech as it effects everyone the same.This is focussing on the aspect of our play which had an impact upon the outcome, but is clearly not the entire reason(s) for concern about the events surrounding the outcome.
Your explanation is far too simplistic and simply ignores other very important points from posters.
I think most of our supporters would " take it on the chin" as a poor performance from the team, if the performance/decisions of the referee and VAR weren't both serious and critical in affecting the outcome.
There are too many poor /unsubstantiated / poorly explained and dismissed decisions from officials which have the overall effect of "distorting" the events which take place on the pitch.
Referees and VAR operators are not infallible, and the reasons quoted for their decisions quoted by media etc are used as a smokescreen for inept performances or much more sinister reasons
Of course the Prem would leave themselves some subjective wiggle room so they can manipulate a definitive outcome...According to an article on VAR on the BBC he was offside but not really!
The new technology was supposed to clear this all up. Gone were the manually drawn lines placed onto a TV picture, replaced with a slick animation. But that has not always been the case.
Much of it is about the little known tolerance level, or margin for error, added to the technology in the Premier League.
In every other competition, offside is given to the millimetre; in the Premier League there is 5cm grace which is effectively the width of the green line. Gudmundsson is given onside because his foot is within it.
Guimaraes, too, was just ahead of Dias but within the tolerance level.
So there we have it, PL gives a 5cm tolerance level and whilst Guimaraes was offside he wasn't offside enough!