PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

My god this is so fucking tiresome.

Lets say he is right. Etihad only paid a small amount of its sponsorship, why the fuck would they commit a fraud and led our owner pay the rest ? according to him and all these assholes then City are state owned , Etihad sure is so why didnt they take the money out of the other state pockets to pay the sponsorship . I just cant see the crime here . Etihad pays City X amount , who pays for it who cares . Same goes for Etisalat, Aabar & other Abu Dhabi-linked sponsors. I just dont see the crime. If and that is the biggest question these Sponsorship deals are judge to be fair value and legal by UEFA and PL should be the main question here. @slbsn @Prestwich_Blue what do you think .

And about our spending , we have not broken any rules since 2014 about spending but Forrest,Everton,Leicester,Man utd, Chelsea have. If we had we would have been charged for braking the spending rules i have no doubts.
You're largely right. CAS established that Etihad paid a minority of the sponsorship from its own marketing budget and rest of the sponsorship was provided to it from central Abu Dhabi funds but, crucially, not from Sheikh Mansour. So it didn't matter.

In fact City specifically requested that owner investment and sponsorship income be remitted separately, so there was a demonstrable and clear split between the two.
 
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City's image? Our image couldn't be any fucking worse to the outside world. Bar our fans (even some of them are fucking wrong'uns) very very few people think we are anything other than cheating cunts.
The horse has long since bolted on that score so another snivelling little cockroach throwing his twopence in isn't going to make any difference.
You said correctly that very few people think we are anything other then cheating cunts, which means that these little cockroach have won , for now. This one is a new with 41.000 followers a just think that they still are damaging our image its bad and I am pissed off .
 
You're largely right. CAS established that Etihad paid a minority of the sponsorship from its own marketing budget and rest of the sponsorship was provided to it from central Abu Dhabi funds, but, crucially, not from Sheikh Mansour. So it didn't matter.

In fact City specifically requested that owner investment and sponsorship income be remitted separately, so there was a demonstrable and clear split between the two.
So how did we cheated according to PL and those twats Magic Hat and Adam.
What is the crime ? why are state owned so what is the different if the sponsorship is provided from Mansour like they say or different Abu Dhabi funds ? I just cant se how that is cheating.
p.s
I am trying to think this from there twisted mind .
 
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You said correctly that very few people think we are anything other then cheating cunts, which means that these little cockroach have won , for now. This one is a new with 41.000 followers a just think that they still are damaging our image its bad and I am pissed off .
Our time will come. It's wasted energy being pissed off over something you can't control.
Wait for it to play out and in the meantime hold your head up high.
The odd slap to cheeky cunts that push too far doesn't go amiss every now and then as well.. :-)
 
You said correctly that very few people think we are anything other then cheating cunts, which means that these little cockroach have won , for now. This one is a new with 41.000 followers a just think that they still are damaging our image its bad and I am pissed off .
Dont be pissed off about it...we cant do anything until the judgement arrives...shoulders back and keep smiling,alot worse things going on in the world...it use to piss me off but it dont anymore..what will be will be and if it goes tits up so be it..all these know alls posting shite on the internet are still getting tucked up in bed off mummy..fuck em..
 
Dont be pissed off about it...we cant do anything until the judgement arrives...shoulders back and keep smiling,alot worse things going on in the world...it use to piss me off but it dont anymore..what will be will be and if it goes tits up so be it..all these know alls posting shite on the internet are still getting tucked up in bed off mummy..fuck em..
I’ve thought all along that the charges ARE the punishment. Levelled at us to lessen our achievements(and Pep’s crucially, it’s why he’ll stay until the judgment in my opinion) and it has worked. We’ve gone from everyone’s favourite second team to cheating cunts. Ahhhhhh the price of success
 
they keep trying

but bear in mind

a utd fan football finance guy


I've got to disagree with a few of the points made by this guy. The CAS report undermines pretty much every point he tries to make.

1) CAS stated in their report that the only information UEFA provided as evidence were the emails published by der Spiegel, nothing else. They didn't present any other evidence, despite getting a team of forensic accountants to look through City's books, having access to all City's bank accounts, contracts etc. That is pretty damming.

2) In the CAS report, CAS gave 8 different reasons for arriving at their decision to clear City of all charges.

3) The CAS report states categorically that UEFA did not have a case against City.

4) The report also states City were prevented by UEFA from providing the original emails at the original hearing, and that this was an error by UEFA. Had UEFA allowed City to show the original emails, CAS determined that UEFA should have cleared City at the original hearing. That's virtually saying the original hearing outcome was fixed.

5) The unredacted emails provided by City showed one of the six published by der Spiegel were two others spliced together - ie the emails der Spiegel printed were deliberately fabricated to mislead. The redactions also allowed der Spiegel to suggest they meant something else, and crucially the emails actually referred to a deal being discussed before FFP or PSR that never went ahead.

When people write stuff like this post, they completely overlook very clear facts that indicate the conclusions they are trying to draw are nonsense.

I'll go on, der Spiegel did publish extra information about Manicini's and Toure's payments. I've read those emails. To me Manicini's agent is discussing a perfectly legal way to avoid paying income tax twice on Mancini's salary, otherwise he'd be paying about 97% and it wouldn't be worth taking the job. This happened because despite duel taxation arrangements to avoid this, Mancini crossed the default threshold in both countries for tax to be applied automatically. The additional AD contract ensured Mancini was never in the UK for over 56 days and therefore only had to pay income tax in Italy. Mancini can't be the first to be in this position. The emails show Mancini's agent duscussing this openly withb the Italian tax authorities, and chasing important documents after he was sacked. The Toure contract is all about a third-party who represents Toure helping City exploit image rights of him and other players. I can't see anything wrong in this, the emails indicate a perfectly normal business arrangement. None of these extra emails suggest any wrongdoing by City. It is purely the interpretation by der Spiegel (because the CAS report suggested they'd made it all up) they used to try to save face. At the time der Spiegel were in the mire over publishing several made up articles with editors and journalists sacked as a result. The CAS reported showed their corrupt business practices spread wider.

Rant over!
 
Once the judgement is out we need to look at a PR campaign highlighting these key points rather than just keeping our counsel.
It won't stop people but we really need to address the negative image which is our there with some easily I understood points like the splicing of the emails etc.
 
Dont be pissed off about it...we cant do anything until the judgement arrives...shoulders back and keep smiling,alot worse things going on in the world...it use to piss me off but it dont anymore..what will be will be and if it goes tits up so be it..all these know alls posting shite on the internet are still getting tucked up in bed off mummy..fuck em..
Here, here.
 
I’ve thought all along that the charges ARE the punishment. Levelled at us to lessen our achievements(and Pep’s crucially, it’s why he’ll stay until the judgment in my opinion) and it has worked. We’ve gone from everyone’s favourite second team to cheating cunts. Ahhhhhh the price of success

And bitter jealousy from the US owned cunts who are desperate to try and stop our success.
 
I just cant be arsed with this latest whiny bellend. Goes to great lengths to tell us its not jealousy, when its plainly obvious that's all it is.

It'll always baffle me why its crime of the century for an owner to want to spend his own money, while everyone seems absolutely fine with scruffy jimbo and the rags carrying a fucking BILLION in debt.
 
Our red finance expert makes such a beguilingly attractive case that we might all wonder why CAS didn’t reach his conclusions back …. And why the PL’s commission hasn’t reached the same conclusions in its apparently never ending deliberations. I cannot get away from a recurrent explanation which is, admittedly, based on no experience, expertise or knowledge. It is predicated on a number of ifs.

Suppose the PL has lost comprehensively. The learned panel has confirmed CAS’s judgement that no evidence has been presented to support any of the allegations and has exonerated our club completely. City simply will not allow an award which states, as the PL wishes, that the PL were unable to prove their case.

I imagine City are angry at the years of the club and its owners being dragged through the mud, rules which are unlawful introduced, rules designed to favour other clubs at our expense, allegations which question the honesty of some of the most high profile business men in the world. The club wants some acknowledgement of all this, some guarantee that all this will never happen again and some financial award to make good the damage done to the reputation of the club and its owners.

This would be a lot for the PL to swallow but I don’t think there will be much sympathy at the club where patience must be exhausted. I believe City took a unllateral decision to release the APT award …. That is my final if!

Fantasy?
 

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