I think if such clauses are fairly widespread, especially to the extent they amount to boilerplate clauses, and the question posed is: ‘is there a break clause specifically relating to the 115 charges’ then ‘no such clause exists’ is not a wholly dishonest answer!
I’m sure there the likes of Haaland and our big names will be able to move on, City wouldn’t hold them hostage and as GDM eloquently puts it, there’s probably general clauses in every contract, whilst not 115 case specific, allow for significant changes in circumstances at the club. That said, I don’t know why, if you are a top player, with lots of options, you pick the one where the shit is going to hit the roof very soon. Liverpool is a great option for Semenyo. He’s better than Gakpo and Salah (on current form with Salah) and Salah is likely to be off at the end of the season. They’re a club competing for trophies and Semenyo would back himself to help turn them into champions against in the future.Yep, which is why I never believe anything anybody says any more. Everything is more complicated than black or white. People just report what they are deliberately told, or what they want to believe, is true.
The biggest indicator to me is that it seems clear that Pep genuinely believes that in front of an independent panel we will be cleared. These are his friends and not just colleagues telling him this.I’m sure there the likes of Haaland and our big names will be able to move on, City wouldn’t hold them hostage and as GDM eloquently puts it, there’s probably general clauses in every contract, whilst not 115 case specific, allow for significant changes in circumstances at the club. That said, I don’t know why, if you are a top player, with lots of options, you pick the one where the shit is going to hit the roof very soon. Liverpool is a great option for Semenyo. He’s better than Gakpo and Salah (on current form with Salah) and Salah is likely to be off at the end of the season. They’re a club competing for trophies and Semenyo would back himself to help turn them into champions against in the future.
As a layman, I can’t understand, if he thought there’s a big risk of City being relegated or severely impacted in some way, why he’d choose us. Especially as he said it was to work with Pep, who has obviously told him he’s staying(?)
Does Semenyo want to be looking again in 6 months- 12 months- however long this shite takes?
I just think we’re obviously confident and the club is giving out significant reassurances. Maybe that’s delusional but Khaldoon doesn’t strike me as delusional at all.
I also don’t think City have behaved as business-as-usual. The new North Stand and hotel complex is not BAU, it’s a huge project with significant investment and will be a total waste of time if we’re going to have our name ruined for good and be competing in a lower division, which will certainly be the case if the equity disguised as sponsorship charges are proven. I said a few pages back either our leadership team are beyond arrogant and delusional or they’re telling the truth, given Khaldoon’s reaction to this and his track record, I think it’s the latter.The biggest indicator to me is that it seems clear that Pep genuinely believes that in front of an independent panel we will be cleared. These are his friends and not just colleagues telling him this.
Not proven is a horrible outcome. To me it's saying we know you did it but we can't prove it.Erm, doesn’t not proven mean exactly the same as innocent?
If the PL haven’t proven we’ve done anything = there is no proof we’ve broken any of the rules….
So yes, I’m hoping for & think we’ll receive a not proven verdict on everything, bar the potential non-cooperation, which could go either way depending on what we didn’t cooperate on
I’m no expert in these sorts of cases, but I’d presume it’d be worded similar to CAS’s verdict? In that it could say that the Premier League’s evidence was “not established”. Just guessing there but if they can’t prove we’ve done it, surely it would read favourably to City. No doubt the usual suspects in the media will see one phrase, similar to “time-barred” with the CAS one and latch on to it like their life depends on it, as a way of suggesting we got away with it.Not proven is a horrible outcome. To me it's saying we know you did it but we can't prove it.
I know football agents feel they earn all their cut but I wonder if they take legal advice regarding contracts for their clients?I’m not at all au fait with sporting contracts, but I would have thought a contingent break clause, fairly widely worded, would be pretty standard in a player’s contract at the top of the game, where a competent agent and legal representative were acting on behalf of a player who, by virtue of his standing in the game, had solid bargaining power. I would have thought that would be pretty commonplace at that level, if not universal.
It certainly wouldn’t need to specifically mention the charges to be effective. It would simply need to refer to material disciplinary findings against the club having a significant negative reputational impact, amounting to a repudiatory breach of the agreement. Why make your client a hostage to fortune in circumstances such as those? They would then have the option (rather than be obliged) to terminate the agreement, possibly subject to an agreed transfer fee at that point as provided for in the contract. This would, to some extent, protect the club’s interests, and make them more liable to agree to such a clause.
I think that clause, worded more widely, would also give a level of plausible deniability about specific break clauses relating to the charges, especially if those types of clauses were commonplace.
All guesswork, mind!
utd are on their 5th manager since the charges were brought.Wow, almost 3 years since this first came to light, 6081 pages later and where we at ?
To be honest I haven't really given it a thought, or looked on this thread for months. I look at this way if they had anything substantial on us we've have been roasted along while back.
It seems the only path open for them is drag it out as long as possible and try to damage our clubs and fans reputation, almost like a death by a thousand cups.
Yesterday I had a chat with a 9 year old Liverpool fan ( work in a Stockport. primary school) and having pointed out how Liverpool aren't doing so well, he went on a rant about how City have been charged with corruption, 115 charges, when I pointed out its like him being accused of 115 acts of poor behaviour in school, without evidence/anything to back it up it's meaningless.
But it highlights the damage done, even when cleared the brain dead will still harp on how we've somehow bought our way out of this mess.
Anyway fu*k em,
Up the blues :-)
Wow, almost 3 years since this first came to light, 6081 pages later and where we at ?
To be honest I haven't really given it a thought, or looked on this thread for months. I look at this way if they had anything substantial on us we've have been roasted along while back.
It seems the only path open for them is drag it out as long as possible and try to damage our clubs and fans reputation, almost like a death by a thousand cups.
Yesterday I had a chat with a 9 year old Liverpool fan ( work in a Stockport. primary school) and having pointed out how Liverpool aren't doing so well, he went on a rant about how City have been charged with corruption, 115 charges, when I pointed out its like him being accused of 115 acts of poor behaviour in school, without evidence/anything to back it up it's meaningless.
But it highlights the damage done, even when cleared the brain dead will still harp on how we've somehow bought our way out of this mess.
Anyway fu*k em,
Up the blues :-)
And stand him in the corner wearing a dunces hatCan’t you bring the cane back for the little red dipper ****.
That's almost 3 years since the actual charges were dropped on us all, it's over 7(seven) years (05/11/2018) since Der Spiegel made the emails public that started it all.Wow, almost 3 years since this first came to light, 6081 pages later and where we at ?
To be honest I haven't really given it a thought, or looked on this thread for months. I look at this way if they had anything substantial on us we've have been roasted along while back.
It seems the only path open for them is drag it out as long as possible and try to damage our clubs and fans reputation, almost like a death by a thousand cups.
Yesterday I had a chat with a 9 year old Liverpool fan ( work in a Stockport. primary school) and having pointed out how Liverpool aren't doing so well, he went on a rant about how City have been charged with corruption, 115 charges, when I pointed out its like him being accused of 115 acts of poor behaviour in school, without evidence/anything to back it up it's meaningless.
But it highlights the damage done, even when cleared the brain dead will still harp on how we've somehow bought our way out of this mess.
Anyway fu*k em,
Up the blues :-)
Not the brightest are they. Whaaay aayyy laaaadsI overheard a Newcastle fan on the train back to Durham after the game…
“They should change the rules to stop state funding”
Lol!
Also some blabber about how we’ll force them to change the rules so we get away with it.
I genuinely believe that the desired outcome from the PL is exactly what has happened every day since they announced them. It's not really ever been about a specific punishment or end game from them, it was simply to wage as long a period of slander, noise and defamation as possible, using their pet media outlets to pump bile on a daily, weekly, monthly basis. I don't think they ever thought they'd get a final serious punishment, but they decided to progress anyway out of hatred, racism and pressure from the hateful eight.That's almost 3 years since the actual charges were dropped on us all, it's over 7(seven) years (05/11/2018) since Der Spiegel made the emails public that started it all.
Is today we are likely to hear about or if there ane any PL 23/24 PSR ?
My guess none of the current clubs will have exceeded but I wonder what the state of play is re Leicester which I guess is complicated because they are now an EFL club .
A Scotsman with his brains kicked in is the standard definition....Not the brightest are they. Whaaay aayyy laaaads